macphisto Posted Friday at 04:47 Share Posted Friday at 04:47 9 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: He’s very very limited / average Watch how many times he gives the ball away , plays a backwards ball , or under hits / over hits a cross He can’t head either and constantly loses his man at the back post He is very quick , very athletic and quite good at one v one defending against most wingers. I thought he was amazing when we signed him and had a few very good games , the more I started to watch him in close detail the more I started to realise how poor he was. Trippier light years ahead of him in terms of input (until his legs went) Livramento is a good player in comparison to others. Apart from a very select group of players, all players have limitations. Worldwide, at this moment in time, there really is lack of quality across the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Friday at 04:48 Share Posted Friday at 04:48 He either needs to renew or be peddled this summer. Anything is really bad for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Friday at 06:16 Share Posted Friday at 06:16 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: He either needs to renew or be peddled this summer. Anything is really bad for us. I dont think he'll renew so time to move on, probably the same with Tonali, if we can also get shot of Wissa and Elanga ill be chuffed. IMO big Nick needs to move as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted Friday at 06:25 Share Posted Friday at 06:25 With our suboptimal recruitment track record if we lose 5 current first team players we are at a massive risk of being relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted Friday at 06:58 Share Posted Friday at 06:58 33 minutes ago, RS said: With our suboptimal recruitment track record if we lose 5 current first team players we are at a massive risk of being relegated 😂😂😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Friday at 07:20 Share Posted Friday at 07:20 54 minutes ago, RS said: With our suboptimal recruitment track record if we lose 5 current first team players we are at a massive risk of being relegated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted Friday at 07:49 Share Posted Friday at 07:49 1 hour ago, RS said: With our suboptimal recruitment track record if we lose 5 current first team players we are at a massive risk of being relegated the afore-mentioned 5 current first team players signed by.... our suboptimal recruitment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Friday at 09:14 Share Posted Friday at 09:14 If he is indeed a better left than right back then we have a significant asset imo. He's had a stop start injury hit season where the whole of the defence has looked shaky. The forward play/runs can be worked on and improved, I'd be delighted if he signs a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Friday at 09:25 Share Posted Friday at 09:25 4 hours ago, r0cafella said: He either needs to renew or be peddled this summer. Anything is really bad for us. It's an odd one. At his best I really like him and I wanted him to sign a new contract. But because of his constant niggles and layoffs, I was thinking it might be better just to get the money while we can. But looks like that has also put City off as well. Best scenario would be he signs a new contract and then has a couple of relatively injury free seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Friday at 09:31 Share Posted Friday at 09:31 5 minutes ago, TRon said: It's an odd one. At his best I really like him and I wanted him to sign a new contract. But because of his constant niggles and layoffs, I was thinking it might be better just to get the money while we can. But looks like that has also put City off as well. Best scenario would be he signs a new contract and then has a couple of relatively injury free seasons. I really rated him as well, but I honestly he would kick on more than what he has. Very good one Vs one defenders but I'd hope for more going forwards and it never really came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted Friday at 10:13 Share Posted Friday at 10:13 38 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I really rated him as well, but I honestly he would kick on more than what he has. Very good one Vs one defenders but I'd hope for more going forwards and it never really came. I think his problem as RB and going forward is that with Murphy, Elanga or Barnes playing in front of him hugging the touchline means no room to overlap really. On the left there is more room to overlap so looks more threatening. If we bought a left footed RW we would see more of Tino going forward. My opinion is if a £60 million offer came in i would sell tho. His injuries are mounting and even though I defended his lack of forward output i just don't think it will ever be top class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Friday at 10:23 Share Posted Friday at 10:23 50 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I really rated him as well, but I honestly he would kick on more than what he has. Very good one Vs one defenders but I'd hope for more going forwards and it never really came. He was pretty good at carrying the ball forward at least. End product wasn't quite there but I think his defensive attributes made up for it mostly. My main concern is his injury record is crap so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Friday at 13:03 Share Posted Friday at 13:03 I just think he looks spaced out a lot of the time, not sure how good his football brain or decision making is. Might be just appearances TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted Friday at 13:06 Share Posted Friday at 13:06 Livramentos level is probably us, unless he wants to be back up at a bigger club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted Friday at 13:17 Share Posted Friday at 13:17 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just think he looks spaced out a lot of the time, not sure how good his football brain or decision making is. Might be just appearances TBF. You can tell sometimes he is just running with the ball without really knowing what to do with it or what he is going to do next . You can't really coach a football brain either , you either have it or you don't . Think he is a good player but not irreplaceable, Hall is levels above him in pretty much everything . Edited Friday at 13:19 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Friday at 14:02 Share Posted Friday at 14:02 18 hours ago, Andy said: I'd say he is quite limited going forward, like. Generally very good defensively but his attacking contribution has been extremely underwhelming compared to some of those glimpses he had in his first season. Throw in how reactive he has become with his defending. I think his stock has fallen massively. He seemed unbeatable at one point. Great in the air, covered well, genuinely world class with his one v one defending. But bar a mini spell of form, he was average at best for most of last season. I’m hoping it was down to constantly being injured and/or a bit rusty. As the drop off from the season before was huge. Still looks far more comfortable at left back and all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted Friday at 14:56 Share Posted Friday at 14:56 I do like him but always thought it’s a bit of a red flag that his (comfortably) best performances have always been at LB. Not that it’s a bad thing as such just when we have Hall he’s never going to get consistent game time there. I’d be open to selling if it was ridiculous, but still think he’s a good RB when he’s on it (and fit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted Friday at 15:35 Share Posted Friday at 15:35 (edited) Honestly think selling him for 50m and buying Wan Bissaka for 10m would be great business. They’re basically like for like players and Wan Bissaka looks to have way better fitness/availability. Edited Friday at 15:37 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted Friday at 15:40 Share Posted Friday at 15:40 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just think he looks spaced out a lot of the time, not sure how good his football brain or decision making is. Might be just appearances TBF. This is it for me. He gets into the final third and then his brain seems to glitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted Friday at 15:40 Share Posted Friday at 15:40 5 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Honestly think selling him for 50m and buying Wan Bissaka for 10m would be great business. They’re basically like for like players and Wan Bissaka looks to have way better fitness/availability. In my mind wan bissaka is 36. Can't believe he's only 28. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Friday at 15:55 Share Posted Friday at 15:55 2 hours ago, Geogaddi said: Think he is a good player but not irreplaceable, Hall is levels above him in pretty much everything . Apart from defending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Friday at 17:38 Share Posted Friday at 17:38 4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just think he looks spaced out a lot of the time, not sure how good his football brain or decision making is. Might be just appearances TBF. Rumours in the WhatsApp groups is that he does a 3 litre creamer bucket before the game and then has half a cowie at half time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Friday at 17:54 Share Posted Friday at 17:54 15 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Rumours in the WhatsApp groups is that he does a 3 litre creamer bucket before the game and then has half a cowie at half time I thought Livramento was mad enough without the gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted Friday at 18:09 Share Posted Friday at 18:09 I think left back is best position as he just needs to concentrate on defending and not attacking... Saying that he did play a part in the second goal in the final from the left. I can't have even more reason to hate that goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doops Posted Friday at 18:20 Share Posted Friday at 18:20 5 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I just think he looks spaced out a lot of the time, not sure how good his football brain or decision making is. Might be just appearances TBF. From the interviews I've seen of him he's not the sharpest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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