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What was the rumoured criteria for buying him? 450 minutes or something? 
 

Seems pointless even getting to that number. If Ritchie, who can’t even sprint now is seen as a better option most weeks. With Hall getting 5-10 minutes at most or an unused sub every week. 
 

Absolutely mental fee if we are close to our FFP ceiling. Not at the stage yet where we can be spending that sort of money on someone that might come good in a few years. That sort of dough should be getting us a first team ready player. Who we (Howe) will start in games and give decent minutes to.  

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2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Then Chelsea used that FFP buffer to sign their new talisman.  Great idea. 
 

We can question the logic behind bringing in a player on an eventual big fee for 3-4 years into the future when we had a demanding schedule this season and weakness in that lads specific position.   

we didnt have a crystal ball and we had tonali

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52 minutes ago, mighty__mag said:

One of the weirdest transfers in history, up there with Nacho Gonzalez and Facundo Fereyra.

come on man. even you dont believe that shite.

i'm sure they were both favours for agents and nothing more.

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It's a different role to Miley and we have had options in our lb area so been more competition for places but fuck me the lad getting next to no game time either we are very principled in our approach or we have wasted a fair chunk of the summer money. 

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1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

What was the rumoured criteria for buying him? 450 minutes or something? 
 

Seems pointless even getting to that number. If Ritchie, who can’t even sprint now is seen as a better option most weeks. With Hall getting 5-10 minutes at most or an unused sub every week. 
 

Absolutely mental fee if we are close to our FFP ceiling. Not at the stage yet where we can be spending that sort of money on someone that might come good in a few years. That sort of dough should be getting us a first team ready player. Who we (Howe) will start in games and give decent minutes to.  

 

Ben Jacobs thinks it's based on our final league position, with some Chelsea journos/ITKs claiming we only need to stay up.

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19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Btw I don’t think Eddie really wanted Livra or Hall. Which explains some of the trepidation about playing them.  No prof of course. Just my read.  

Livramento looks like he will be elite imo, has absolutely everything in abundance and is so young, would be mental if this is why Howe took an age to introduce them.... But who knows! 

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1 minute ago, janpawel said:

Livramento looks like he will be elite imo, has absolutely everything in abundance and is so young, would be mental if this is why Howe took an age to introduce them.... But who knows! 

If you compare Livermento to Hall. You have a gulf in class.

 

Livermento is Trips permanent replacement.

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Definitely think it's time to give him a run in midfield. At least in the FA cup game anyway. He could play that more advanced LCM role we use better than Longstaff has done imo... Longstaff is completely unsuited to it and is a different player on the right.

 

Get him crossing from deep on the left and providing overlaps for Gordon. It makes sense in a lot of ways. 

 

 

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