Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 15 minutes ago, Collage said: Wijnaldum He was at Liverpool tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Edmundo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Actually just realised one, and again it's because of injuries imo. Ruben Loftus-Cheek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: like who? There aren’t many "mediocre" players that play at that level, never mind win them both. Maybe need to recalibrate your idea of mediocre if you genuinely think that’s true. Just saying you don’t have to be ”world class” to have won both the PL and the CL. Loads of Man U players come to mind. Nicky Butt. David May. Wes Brown. Jesper Blomquist. OGS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Ryan Gauld Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He was at Liverpool tbh World class? Dunno. Maybe. EDIT: I think it’s more that he became a different player than I thought. Less spectacular. Edited January 1 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Memphis Depay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Adam Campbell. Remember watching him in pre-season at Cardiff and he was the best player on the pitch. Just looked so natural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Michael Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 I legitimately thought Cheick Tiote could be world class until Pardew tried to convert him to a box to box. Same with Longstaff when he first broke through, just looked like he had so much time on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Michael Owen 1998-2002 he was tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 35 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Was gonna say Aaron's, but couldn't remember his name. By the time I successfully looked it up you beat me to it! Didn’t spring immediately to my mind either! How soon we forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Collage said: Just saying you don’t have to be ”world class” to have won both the PL and the CL. Loads of Man U players come to mind. Nicky Butt. David May. Wes Brown. Jesper Blomquist. OGS. All of the players you’ve listed were full Internationals? They may not have been the absolute best in their respective positions, but they’re not mediocre players either. They all consistently played in team's that played in one of Europe's top 5 leagues. I think what has happened post-Fergie has messed with some people's minds over how good you had to be to consistently play for Man Utd too tbh. I think we are mainly arguing about definitions of what a "mediocre player" is tbh, clearly your definition, includes players with a hell of a lot more ability than mine. Edited January 1 by Ghandis Flip-Flop iPad autocorrect clean up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Iker Muniain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Hatem Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Titus Bramble. Remember when he was about 19 and scored for Ipswich on a run from his own 18 yard box. Then he signed for us.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, Dancing Brave said: Hatem Ben Arfa I'd argue ability wise he was, just didn’t have the mentality to fully realise it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Mikel Merino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, 500bhp said: Titus Bramble. Remember when he was about 19 and scored for Ipswich on a run from his own 18 yard box. Then he signed for us.... Physically he had everything, he did look good alongside Woodgate who had the footballing intelligence to help Marshall him through games. It all went wrong when his defensive partners were as equally brainless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Philippe Mexès When he was kid a Auxerre (there was a piece in match magazine when I was a kid about the top 11 future great players and he was mentioned.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Michael Chopra for us and Freddy Adu from the days before constant social media Dennis Wise youtube videos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Casiraghi was great but his career was cut short at chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 11 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: All of the players you’ve listed were full Internationals? They may not have been the absolute best in their respective positions, but they’re not mediocre players either. They all consistently played in team's that played in one of Europe's top 5 leagues. I think what has happened post-Fergie has messed with some people's minds over how good you had to be to consistently play for Man Utd too tbh. I think we are mainly arguing about definitions of what a "mediocre player" is tbh, clearly your definition, includes players with a hell of a lot more ability than mine. The thread is about players who we think would be world class and it seemed to me that you used a PL and a CL medal as an argument to claim a player is world class, I just opposed to that. Yeah mediocre is probably the wrong word. David May has no caps though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 El Shaarawy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSA Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 40 minutes ago, OpenC said: Hugo Viana, based on very little in all honesty had really high hopes for him too. seemed to possess sublime technical skills and always looked like he had more 'time' on the ball than the rest of players around him. what a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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