The Prophet Posted Monday at 07:59 Share Posted Monday at 07:59 1 minute ago, TK-421 said: So for any FFP/PSR experts... would that still benefit us, even though the fees are (allegedly) close, that we get £40m for Minteh, but then the way it all works the outlay on DCL is spread so not simply a 'like for like' transfer/fee, in reality? Out of £40m for Minteh (if we got anywhere near that), what are we potentially left with, taking account of his original fee, time left / ammortisation on current deal, etc? Aye. Say for arguments sake they both went for £40 million (excluding wages). We pay £8 million this season for DCL, over a five year deal. Then the entire £40 million for Minteh goes on the books now. Meaning a £32 million profit. Granted, I've read any players bought now, can be put on next year's books. I'm not sure how accurate that is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted Monday at 08:00 Share Posted Monday at 08:00 Calvert Lewin is an absolutely honking signing. No two ways about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted Monday at 08:03 Share Posted Monday at 08:03 10 minutes ago, Lish007 said: Best scenario is we buy DCL for 37m and sell them Minteh for 30m. He has one season in the PL. We have a buy back clause of 35m and buy him back the next season. Everyone is a winner. Why would Everton agree to this? I'd be pissed off if we done deals like that. They could double his value in the first season and them have to sell him back to us for almost half. Imagine if we'd done a deal like that for Bruno or Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Monday at 08:03 Share Posted Monday at 08:03 Some of our fans are mental and never learn a single lesson do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 08:04 Share Posted Monday at 08:04 14 minutes ago, Lish007 said: Best scenario is we buy DCL for 37m and sell them Minteh for 30m. He has one season in the PL. We have a buy back clause of 35m and buy him back the next season. Everyone is a winner. I’d give up if we paid that for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted Monday at 08:05 Share Posted Monday at 08:05 Just now, Bishops Finger said: Why would Everton agree to this? I'd be pissed off if we done deals like that. They could double his value in the first season and them have to sell him back to us for almost half. Imagine if we'd done a deal like that for Bruno or Isak FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 08:12 Share Posted Monday at 08:12 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’d give up if we paid that for him Regardless of what we pay for him, I don't think it can be viewed in terms of normal value. We're clearly fudging the books here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted Monday at 08:17 Share Posted Monday at 08:17 12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’d give up if we paid that for him Aye it seemed mental to me as well but it seems a case of fiddling the books if minteh is going the other way for a similar amount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 08:19 Share Posted Monday at 08:19 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Can't wait to drop significant money on DCL who'll spend half the season injured and then be gaslighted by the club claiming hindsight & bad luck. 😂 I like DCL as a player. Happy to take him next season on a free, and think we'd get more out of him than wilson, but if we're proper skint, this is a move which will hold us back in the same way Tonali & Barnes has, but at least you can state luck and hindsight there. Last summers transfer activity doesn't make much sense. I guess we thought FFP and no teeth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 08:21 Share Posted Monday at 08:21 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Last summers transfer activity doesn't make much sense. I guess we thought FFP and no teeth. Can't believe people are still running this argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 08:22 Share Posted Monday at 08:22 25 minutes ago, TK-421 said: So for any FFP/PSR experts... would that still benefit us, even though the fees are (allegedly) close, that we get £40m for Minteh, but then the way it all works the outlay on DCL is spread so not simply a 'like for like' transfer/fee, in reality? Out of £40m for Minteh (if we got anywhere near that), what are we potentially left with, taking account of his original fee, time left / ammortisation on current deal, etc? Don't know how long his contract is but let's say of the £8m fee, he's amortised 1.5m, we'd have 6.5m as his remaining book value. So taking home over £30m. If we insert a buyback, I assume Everton would want at least 20% profit. So say he signs for £40m, the buyback would be close to £50m surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 08:23 Share Posted Monday at 08:23 22 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Calvert Lewin is an absolutely honking signing. No two ways about it. On 24/01/2023 at 12:23, Doctor Zaius said: Gordon is rubbish and not what we need at all. Take one look at an Everton forum and itll tell you all you need to know. Keep finding that hill to die on brother… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted Monday at 08:25 Share Posted Monday at 08:25 15 hours ago, dilligaf said: Kenny Rogers Sandra’s favourite song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 08:27 Share Posted Monday at 08:27 3 minutes ago, SteV said: Keep finding that hill to die on brother… Not cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted Monday at 08:33 Share Posted Monday at 08:33 9 minutes ago, SteV said: Keep finding that hill to die on brother… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted Monday at 08:33 Share Posted Monday at 08:33 Shots fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Monday at 08:39 Share Posted Monday at 08:39 5 minutes ago, Rich said: Shots fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Monday at 08:44 Share Posted Monday at 08:44 The equivalent of setting up a deal where Miley goes to Man City for £40 million and we sign Kalvin Phillips for £40 million. Bonkers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted Monday at 08:51 Share Posted Monday at 08:51 27 minutes ago, SteV said: Keep finding that hill to die on brother… This is wonderful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Monday at 08:53 Share Posted Monday at 08:53 32 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Can't believe people are still running this argument. What argument? Our spending last summer has meant we have to sell players this summer to be FFP compliant. Is it not worth questioning the activities last summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted Monday at 09:07 Share Posted Monday at 09:07 1 hour ago, Doctor Zaius said: Calvert Lewin is an absolutely honking signing. No two ways about it. I'm sure you said the same about Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Monday at 09:14 Share Posted Monday at 09:14 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: I'm sure you said the same about Gordon See above 9 posts! Edited Monday at 09:15 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Monday at 09:15 Share Posted Monday at 09:15 51 minutes ago, SteV said: Keep finding that hill to die on brother… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted Monday at 09:15 Share Posted Monday at 09:15 (edited) But Gordon was very young, we knew he had pace to burn and that he was a pressing machine. And no major injury worries. Huge potential that is being realised. DCL does not have the same attributes. He’s been living off a purple patch from 4 years ago and his next injury will probably keep him out for a few months. I don’t get it, I’d honestly rather have Chris Wood back.. at least he’s reliable in terms of his body not breaking down. Its a luxury signing when you know the rest of your squad is 100% - but it’s not though is it. Edited Monday at 09:16 by Dr Jinx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted Monday at 09:17 Share Posted Monday at 09:17 (edited) Wasn't the only one that said that. The majority of the fanbase were wrong. Happy to hold my hands up. Has literally no bearing on whether Calvert Lewin is any good though. Edited Monday at 09:19 by Doctor Zaius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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