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Newcastle United 1-0 Southampton (17/08/24)


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3 minutes ago, Nobody said:

What for? I haven't seen the whole game 

Barging Gordon down not long before Schär's red. Should have been a yellow, Pawson didn't even give a free kick. Later on (caveat that he might not have done it if he was on a yellow) he got a yellow for blocking Isak after he'd embarrassed him.

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5 minutes ago, Nobody said:

What for? I haven't seen the whole game 

Might be forgetting something that KI is referencing but there was a blatant yellow on Gordon that wasn't given before the blatant yellow on Isak

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We lacked cohesion before the sending off. No doubt we had a plan for with and without the ball but the players were just that 5% off that makes all the difference.

Once Schar walked we became very determined and once they fucked up, and to my mind they were always going to fuck up at least once, we pounced. After that and especially after half time every move, every decision and every effort became dedicated to that one plan. That kind of made it easier for us. 
I know EH likes to get the ball forward asap and is not in favour of possession without clear fret but I do feel there will be times when it would be handy if we could just keep the ball for a bit, even if it’s just to stop the other team having it. 
I mean, stats said we had 16% possession yesterday, not sure if that’s just the 2nd half but that is atrocious any way you cut it.

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I don't know if it's been discussed, but I wonder if this injury prevention expert has had some influence on the level of intensity of our training sessions? Let's be honest, apart from heroic defending we were a non existent entity compared to our usual selves. Even before the sending off we struggled to even complete two passes. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Wolfcastle said:

Was more forceful than what pole-axed him from Schar, as was the shrug from Schar, as was the initial fould on Schar by the cunt.

 

Obvs wouldn't condone it but if Longstaff had hit the deck when Brereton pushed him (after THAT tackle/exchange) maybees the slimy wanker would've got a 2nd yellow

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The sample size from Saturday was so small, like. It's very rare that a team dominates proceedings for 90 minutes - even last year's awful promoted sides gave Arsenal/City some tough matches. An awkward pressing shape (which we'd have adjusted to not long after the sending off imo) and some rust seemed to be the main issue - between 5 & 15 minutes, we lost the ball a fair bit through taking extra touches - Schar, Burn, Hall, Bruno, and Gordon all being offenders in that period. Schar and Hall being in that mix wasn't good for us as they're our main distributors directly from defence.

 

I thought the strategy once we went down was spot on. We knew we were carrying some ringrust and they didn't have much to really hurt us with so we sat narrow and waited for counters which is something we're very suited to, while still mixing in some pressing. It felt like we controlled the space very well bar one or two moments.

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1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

One of my biggest takeaways from Saturday, by the way, is just how much we miss Trippier when we have the ball. He dictates the tempo down that side of the pitch. Love Tino, but he doesn’t quite have that control of the game.

I think your right from that standpoint, although when we went down to 10 i much rather have Tino who was excellent defensively imo. 

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4 hours ago, Pancrate1892 said:

I don't know if it's been discussed, but I wonder if this injury prevention expert has had some influence on the level of intensity of our training sessions? Let's be honest, apart from heroic defending we were a non existent entity compared to our usual selves. Even before the sending off we struggled to even complete two passes. 

 

 

 

It's a decent question, though I don't think so, for a couple of reasons. One, I don't think Eddie would stand for dramatic changes in training, and seemingly he feels more secure in his position now, rather than less.

 

Secondly, I don't think we were all that different to how we were in the second half of last season... Pre-red card I mean, obviously.

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2 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

One of my biggest takeaways from Saturday, by the way, is just how much we miss Trippier when we have the ball. He dictates the tempo down that side of the pitch. Love Tino, but he doesn’t quite have that control of the game.

Maybe a bit harsh to judge Tino regards that when we had 10 men for over 2/3rds of the game and Murphy gone off after 30 minutes so nobody for Tino too link up with. 

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I know i get stick on here for defending Luke Edward’s but surely by now you all can see the real shit stirrer is Hope. The fact he’s from the NE just makes him a bigger prick IMO. Simon Bird not far behind in a quite a long list of locals.

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4 minutes ago, LFEE said:

I know i get stick on here for defending Luke Edward’s but surely by now you all can see the real shit stirrer is Hope. The fact he’s from the NE just makes him a bigger prick IMO. Simon Bird not far behind in a quite a long list of locals.

 

They're cut from the same cloth; Douglas and Downie are less incendiary but chuck em in the mix n'all. You need to take every one of them with a pinch of salt. 

 

Their modus operandi is to drive engagement so it's not possible to take them completely seriously, ever. 

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