Geordie Ahmed Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 This has been caused by UEFA really from what I can see Not sure why, Matchday 1 for CL and Europa League takes place a week apart Matchday 2 and onwards reverts back to normal, with CL on Tue/Wed and Europa League on Thursday, which is why moving forward it's not an issue Even though it's shite and I was not happy with it (still feels wrong), looking into it more I understand the solution the EFL came up with There really isn't anywhere to squeeze the games in if a CL side got drawn against a Europa League side Thpugh unless I'm missing something what I don't understand is why they didn't draw the Carabao Cup in a way where they just kept the CL and Europa League sides apart? I understand why Liverpool drawing Spurs would be a problem but Liverpool drawing City wouldn't be an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: This has been caused by UEFA really from what I can see Not sure why, Matchday 1 for CL and Europa League takes place a week apart Matchday 2 and onwards reverts back to normal, with CL on Tue/Wed and Europa League on Thursday, which is why moving forward it's not an issue Even though it's shite and I was not happy with it (still feels wrong), looking into it more I understand the solution the EFL came up with There really isn't anywhere to squeeze the games in if a CL side got drawn against a Europa League side Thpugh unless I'm missing something what I don't understand is why they didn't draw the Carabao Cup in a way where they just kept the CL and Europa League sides apart? I understand why Liverpool drawing Spurs would be a problem but Liverpool drawing City wouldn't be an issue Aye it has to an extent, ultimately the solution they came up with was one which benefits those clubs the most though. I think at this point the competition needs totally re thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Aye it has to an extent, ultimately the solution they came up with was one which benefits those clubs the most though. I think at this point the competition needs totally re thinking. I’m still shocked about the whole thing and believe the integrity of the entire competition is questionable right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Basically gaming, any opportunity, for the cartel. All they had to do was run the draw as normal. When a CL team gets picked (home) AND a EC gets picked (away) you put the latter back in. Visa versa, obvs. You could have a side 50/50 in that scenario to hoy back in either the home team or away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 5 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Basically gaming, any opportunity, for the cartel. All they had to do was run the draw as normal. When a CL team gets picked (home) AND a EC gets picked (away) you put the latter back in. Visa versa, obvs. You could have a side 50/50 in that scenario to hoy back in either the home team or away. It’s so grim how they pander and simp to their overlords. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 10 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Basically gaming, any opportunity, for the cartel. All they had to do was run the draw as normal. When a CL team gets picked (home) AND a EC gets picked (away) you put the latter back in. Visa versa, obvs. You could have a side 50/50 in that scenario to hoy back in either the home team or away. Sods law dictates that if they did this they'd end up in a scenario with the last 2 balls (or 5 of the last 6) being European teams and they've then got to scrap it and redo the whole thing. Whole thing is shambolic mind and not helped by the revamped CL this year where teams play 8 group games instead of 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Them giving European teams a bye from the second round to decrease their workload overall will backfire on us this weekend as well when we play European-qualified Spurs who will have had the full week off to prepare (at a time they don't really need it) after we've had a cup game midweek. I'm not sure what the solution is but it seems a bit off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 8 hours ago, sempuki said: Think I went to that one. At Selhurst Park if I remember correctly? Yeah that's the one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 9 hours ago, huss9 said: fuck me. honestly felt more nervous and sick during that cup draw than the actual pelanty shoot out. Said to my old man that we'd pull a PL side away from home. I ended up being half right! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 When and why did the Football League bring the final forward to end of February? Sure it used to be end of April in the 90s. Go back to that then you can spread out ties more, and the European teams don't need special treatment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Who makes the decisions on the rigging/runs it? Aside from the obvious answer of the cartel themselves. Like is it the football league and Rick parry etc making these stupid decisions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: When and why did the Football League bring the final forward to end of February? Sure it used to be end of April in the 90s. Go back to that then you can spread out ties more, and the European teams don't need special treatment. It changed from late March/early April to the end of February in 2000, and guess what else came in that season? The expanded Champions League with the second group stage, with midweek fixtures all throughout March and then straight into knockouts every midweek. The season before was the first where the top 4 could qualify, so this season was the first with up to four teams from one country participating. So more than likely why it was moved in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Think most of the ones in the 90s were March, some were even played under floodlights, seemed to coincide with the Coca-Cola sponsorship starting in 92/93 - wonder if they suggested or if the idea just came up at the time of shifting it further away from the FA Cup final to differentiate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 wimbledon afc, man. what a club and what a set of fans. hope they make it back to the prem one day... in place of palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 29/08/2024 at 04:14, Thorpinho said: Who makes the decisions on the rigging/runs it? Aside from the obvious answer of the cartel themselves. Like is it the football league and Rick parry etc making these stupid decisions? It reeks of Parry, like https://www.skysports.com/football/news/34651/13118481/fa-cup-replays-efl-and-non-league-clubs-hit-out-at-controversial-new-format Quote The FA's statement said the Professional Game Board, which has four EFL representatives including its chairman Rick Parry, and the FA Board had approved the overall calendar for next season containing the changes. ... Furious clubs say they were not consulted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I think the compromise should’ve been if the Euro clubs are seeded/kept apart then they all have to play their ties away from home that round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 When are these buffoons going to announce the date as it can be two midweeks! Assume it’ll be Weds 18th as the CL teams are playing that week so playing league cup the week after and we’re at Wolves on the Sunday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 29 minutes ago, Paully said: When are these buffoons going to announce the date as it can be two midweeks! Assume it’ll be Weds 18th as the CL teams are playing that week so playing league cup the week after and we’re at Wolves on the Sunday! Guess it depends whether it gets chosen for TV. I reckon Coventry v Spurs could be a TV pick, which would have to be Wed 18th as Spurs playing Sunday the 15th and then in the Europa the week after. So that could end up with us being the week after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 9 hours ago, SteV said: Guess it depends whether it gets chosen for TV. I reckon Coventry v Spurs could be a TV pick, which would have to be Wed 18th as Spurs playing Sunday the 15th and then in the Europa the week after. So that could end up with us being the week after. This would suit me, as I've got the kids the first week so wouldn't be able to make it, but can go if it's the second week. Tbh, the non-European clubs should have been able to make their arrangements straightaway. All the ties are televised this season on the red button if necessary so it doesn't make much difference to fans of any participating clubs. But I guess Sky will want to schedule them all so that they get the best combo of matches for the "main" channels to maximise neutral viewers?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 30/08/2024 at 18:11, LFEE said: I think the compromise should’ve been if the Euro clubs are seeded/kept apart then they all have to play their ties away from home that round. Said exactly the same last week either on here somewhere or in a Whatsapp group chat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 30/08/2024 at 17:51, Teslact said: It reeks of Parry, like https://www.skysports.com/football/news/34651/13118481/fa-cup-replays-efl-and-non-league-clubs-hit-out-at-controversial-new-format Rick Parry isn't half a fucking wanker, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Still no date for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 42 minutes ago, LFEE said: Still no date for this? Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 It'll be the 18th I'd imagine. Wolves A can't be moved on the Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 13 minutes ago, mattypnufc said: It'll be the 18th I'd imagine. Wolves A can't be moved on the Sunday. Could it not be the week after though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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