Anthony Elanga

[PauloGeordio]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think he will be canny, doesn't make 60m reasonable though

 

 

 

£60 mill is the new £40 mill. Money well spent on Gordon. Hope we sign Elanga. Think he’ll be fantastic for us.

[r0cafella]

Just now, loki679 said:

Nah, the price is still over the odds but a big bag of money on the right wing won't get as many assists.

It's basically as I've been saying. The mistake isn't buying him the mistake is not picking him up front Man u for a third of what we are going to be rinsed for. 

[JonBez comesock]

24 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

We’ll agree to disagree on that one. Although maybe I should have said you’re not going to find a “better signing for us”, rather than “better RW” in general.

 

Elanga is about as close to a guaranteed “good signing” as you’re going to get for what we need at this point in time.

 

Raw ability / attributes ✅

Premier League experience ✅

Easy to integrate into squad ✅

Off the back of a great season ✅

High ceiling to improve further under Howe ✅

Great attitude / personality ✅

Extensively scouted and been interested in for the last 3 windows ✅

Likely to come in and perform well straight away ✅

There’s certainly no one else who ticks as many boxes as that available for less than £50m. There might be some players available for cheaper who tick some of the boxes and may tick those boxes in the future, but IN MY OPINION, we want / need players to come in and perform straight away.

This 

[JonBez comesock]

Just now, JonBez comesock said:

This 

Spot on 

[Alberto2005]

1 hour ago, Nucasol said:

Had a mare there, knew he was Swedish 😂

[1964]

42 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

We’ll agree to disagree on that one. Although maybe I should have said you’re not going to find a “better signing for us”, rather than “better RW” in general.

 

Elanga is about as close to a guaranteed “good signing” as you’re going to get for what we need at this point in time.

 

Raw ability / attributes ✅

Premier League experience ✅

Easy to integrate into squad ✅

Off the back of a great season ✅

High ceiling to improve further under Howe ✅

Great attitude / personality ✅

Extensively scouted and been interested in for the last 3 windows ✅

Likely to come in and perform well straight away ✅

There’s certainly no one else who ticks as many boxes as that available for less than £50m. There might be some players available for cheaper who tick some of the boxes and may tick those boxes in the future, but IN MY OPINION, we want / need players to come in and perform straight away.

Agreed, the reason why premiership players cost more isn't just a tax on british based players, it's because the risk of failure is far lower because they've already done it in the league.   I'm sure we could all name shitloads of foreign imports who cost a fortune but could not adapt.  So get a cheaper alternative from abroad but accept the risk that you've wasted £40m rather than a guaranteed starter at £50m

[r0cafella]

Just now, 1964 said:

Agreed, the reason why premiership players cost more isn't just a tax on british based players, it's because the risk of failure is far lower because they've already done it in the league.   I'm sure we could all name shitloads of foreign imports who cost a fortune but could not adapt.  So get a cheaper alternative from abroad but accept the risk that you've wasted £40m rather than a guaranteed starter at £50m

Your point is 100% and valid. 

 

I would add though, that in years gone by, like for example when we bought Luque clubs were very primitive in how they handled players from overseas etc. 

 

I think our imports such as Bruno standard testament to the fact it doesn't have to be that way as long as you know what you want and have a plan in order to integrate them. 

[mighty__mag]

I definitely want him, I just couldn't justify 60m, but as someone points out, if Forest don't want to sell him, it's added on to the price.

 

Like Gordon is valued at 60m now, if he has a season like his previous season, and we don't want to sell, then of course we'll throw on an extra 20m if Arsenal or Liverpool were asking.

 

Same story with Man Utd, sides in the driving seat take the piss out of them if they know they're interested in one of their players. 

 

 

[et tu brute]

5 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

You’re not going to find a better RW than Elanga for less than £50m+ like, even abroad. Have you not seen the fees being quoted for some absolute bang average footballers this summer?

He's not worth anything near £50 million. Again you're totally entitled to your opinion 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

It's basically as I've been saying. The mistake isn't buying him the mistake is not picking him up front Man u for a third of what we are going to be rinsed for. 

 

 

That provides a bit more of a risky policy where you are going for unproven players. No other top club bought him either remember.

 

I think we may end up having to go this route anyway as there is no way we can get 4 players with our budget if we are going to be quoted £60-70m for every PL based player. 

 

How that will work with Mitchell gone is going to be interesting though. 

[Decky]

2 hours ago, PauloGeordio said:

£60 mill is the new £40 mill. 

 

And yet the spending cap for PSR hasn't changed since it came in.

[KingArthur]

6 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

You’re not going to find a better RW than Elanga for less than £50m+ like, even abroad. Have you not seen the fees being quoted for some absolute bang average footballers this summer?

Really? But seems like everyone does that all the time?

[Thumbheed]

Elanga makes sense when you realise we are the team that sprints the most in and out of possession. 

 

I have other preferences for the RW slot but when your game is centred around pace, ie how quickly you can close down and how quickly you can break, then it makes perfect sense you go for the pkayer who has both proven output and extreme pace. 

 

There's a litany of players with pace out there, but only a few are actually rapid. 

[Decky]

He would fit in so well here because he already has friends in the squad. The deal makes so much sense.

[Monters]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

It's basically as I've been saying. The mistake isn't buying him the mistake is not picking him up front Man u for a third of what we are going to be rinsed for. 

The window he went to Forest we signed Tino, Tonali, Hall (Load but guaranteed), Barnes & Minteh at that time who do we not sign to pick up Elanga? 

 

It's arguably that window, which put us in the shit PSR wise so would it have been better to spend £15 mill on Elanga or whatever the cost was for Minteh?

If it was a mistake not to sign him then should that prevent us ever signing him? Obviously an extreme example but we fucked up with school boy Shearer but rectified it with a world record fee, was that bad business?  

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

Elanga makes sense when you realise we are the team that sprints the most in and out of possession. 

 

I have other preferences for the RW slot but when your game is centred around pace, ie how quickly you can close down and how quickly you can break, then it makes perfect sense you go for the pkayer who has both proven output and extreme pace. 

 

There's a litany of players with pace out there, but only a few are actually rapid. 

Pace is perfect for a counter game, but not when you're facing a low block. That's the big area we need to resolve this season 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Monters said:

The window he went to Forest we signed Tino, Tonali, Hall (Load but guaranteed), Barnes & Minteh at that time who do we not sign to pick up Elanga? 

 

It's arguably that window, which put us in the shit PSR wise so would it have been better to spend £15 mill on Elanga or whatever the cost was for Minteh?

If it was a mistake not to sign him then should that prevent us ever signing him? Obviously an extreme example but we fucked up with school boy Shearer but rectified it with a world record fee, was that bad business?  

I don't pick Barnes. Before people come for me it's not that Barnes is bad or anything like that. But at that time I wouldn't have bought him. 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Pace is perfect for a counter game, but not when you're facing a low block. That's the big area we need to resolve this season 

 

Even that's hard to do without pace, would take a pretty special player who can do it, and would cost quite a lot I imagine. 

[Shadow Puppets]

21 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Really? But seems like everyone does that all the time?

Do they? Everyone else finds better players who can meet all the criteria that we want and who come in and perform straight away, for less? In today’s market?

[Monters]

1 minute ago, et tu brute said:

Pace is perfect for a counter game, but not when you're facing a low block. That's the big area we need to resolve this season 

Personally I think he offers more that just pace but that is his most obvious talent.  Someone shared a video of his goals and assists from last season and his two footedness stood out, as did his positioning which looked very intelligent and would give Tino or whoever played full back ample opportunity to overlap etc. which would help against teams sitting deeper. Again in my opinion  

[et tu brute]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Even that's hard to do without pace, would take a pretty special player who can do it, and would cost quite a lot I imagine. 

It's a problem we need to resolve. Just not a great fan of his and think he's a younger Murphy nothing more. I think we will walk away and look elsewhere, now that our bid was knocked back. Time will tell though

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, Monters said:

Personally I think he offers more that just pace but that is his most obvious talent.  Someone shared a video of his goals and assists from last season and his two footedness stood out, as did his positioning which looked very intelligent and would give Tino or whoever played full back ample opportunity to overlap etc. which would help against teams sitting deeper. Again in my opinion  

I don't agree, but respect your opinion though 

[Monters]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I don't pick Barnes. Before people come for me it's not that Barnes is bad or anything like that. But at that time I wouldn't have bought him. 

Fair enough, I can understand that.

My guess and that's all it is would be that they went Minteh for less cash but similar attributes, I think Elanga has developed more in the time since but I know Minteh has many admirers on here and I'm certainly not slagging him off.

[Thumbheed]

26 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Pace is perfect for a counter game, but not when you're facing a low block. That's the big area we need to resolve this season 

 

Thats what Pedro was for.

 

There more to it too, but youre clearly dug in against Elanga so I cba

 

 

Edited July 3, 2025 by Thumbheed

[Hanshithispantz]

27 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Pace is perfect for a counter game, but not when you're facing a low block. That's the big area we need to resolve this season 

Pace is also good for a low block. Sterling at City scored about 400 goals running to the byline and Howe had Almiron doing the same. Elanga is two footed too, he'll terrorise defences.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2025 by Hanshithispantz