Whitley mag Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, gdm said: I’ve no doubt by the time window closes in the summer we’ll be in the stronger position. We appear to be in a great position to spend. They done a ton on wages for temporary signings Yeah qualify for Champions League and fancy us to be in the stronger position next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Results are always all that matter, really, but at this stage of the season it's particularly true. Positive trends, team chemistry, xG, performances - whatever metrics your want to use to forecast long-term success - are secondary to just getting over the line. We've put in some very, very hard yards this season - they've earned the right to win ugly if that's what it takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: I thought it was a combination of Villa's quality, our fatigue and our tactical approach that did for us in the second half. One to take on the chin and move on from. Wednesday meant that this was a bit of a free hit. We need to do the business v Ipswich and I'm sure we will. We really missed Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We really missed Howe. What do you think Howe would have done differently out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 6 minutes ago, joeyt said: What do you think Howe would have done differently out of interest? specifically in terms of mentality I think Howe would help a tonne. When players like Bruno and Schar go head’s gone he’d be there sorting them out. After that we don’t know what else Howe brings in terms of tactical detailing but I think it’s obvious that we’d be better off with him there isn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 In this particular game Howe wouldn’t have made a jot of difference result wise tbh. They were just so much better and sharper and fresher in every area of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 minutes ago, Smal said: specifically in terms of mentality I think Howe would help a tonne. When players like Bruno and Schar go head’s gone he’d be there sorting them out. After that we don’t know what else Howe brings in terms of tactical detailing but I think it’s obvious that we’d be better off with him there isn’t it? I guess he could have calmed them down a bit but I'm not sure he'd have made much difference. It's not like we played any different to how we would have if Howe was there and he can't magically produce a better subs bench than we had yesterday. Just think we can say we were beaten by the better team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Howe would have made a difference without a doubt. We got it completely wrong tactically yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 24 minutes ago, joeyt said: What do you think Howe would have done differently out of interest? Not sure in terms of specifics, but when you come up against someone as good as Emery, you miss your manager. Not only for the game but for the build up as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, joeyt said: I guess he could have calmed them down a bit but I'm not sure he'd have made much difference. It's not like we played any different to how we would have if Howe was there and he can't magically produce a better subs bench than we had yesterday. Just think we can say we were beaten by the better team we were definitely beaten by the better team on the day but I think it’d be a bit daft to think that having the manager wouldn’t make any/much of a difference really. Like I say tactically we don’t know how much input all of the staff have but we were miles off them everywhere. Of course there are various reasons for this but it’s hard for me to imagine Howe setting us up that badly and persisting with it through the full 90 without really changing anything. We were very lucky it was only 4 - could easily have been really embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Generally confused as to how anybody would say that Eddie wouldn’t have made some difference. He’s the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 How would Villa fare if they didn’t have Emery for few weeks? After a handful of winnable matches they march up to city or Newcastle away? That would absolutely be some factor. Fatigue aside. Results may still even out but the manager is in that position and role for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 51 minutes ago, joeyt said: What do you think Howe would have done differently out of interest? It's not the in-game management so much that we would've missed, but the preparation beforehand, and his ability to fire the players up. He's clearly a great motivator and you are going to miss that big-time in a crunch game against a Villa team who were playing like it was their biggest game of the season. Not saying it would've changed the result, but I bet we would have put up more of a fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) The press hype over Villa after this is absurd. Well done, you beat us when we're missing our manager, had hardly any rest, and with squad options we can only dream of. Edited April 20 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: The press hype over Villa after this is absurd. Well done, you beat us when we're missing our manager, had hardly any rest, and with squad options we can only dream of. They're a good team, to be fair, and have been in excellent form for a good while now. I think they'll beat City tbh. Most people questioned their loan signings in January, but they've turned out to be extremely astute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 So we’re allowed to talk about how Emery was brilliant yesterday but ignore our very strong #2 had to take charge and just discount any influence Howe may have had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Enjoy the win, well done for beating Tindall while Howe was in hospital, I hope it makes you very happy. What a sad little life Emery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 If we had 1 last bad defeat in our season left, hoping yesterday was it. Brighton, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton are games that we can get wins or draw at the very least. I feared a loss and a hammering at Villa and it duly happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, duo said: 3 games is 6 days is a lot for any team - Villa's bench won the game. Now it's a weeks air gap between the remaining games. It is something that we need to be able to deal with next season though - we really don't want a repeat of last seasons injury crisis. Edited April 20 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Hopefully Mitchell can pad depth and we can sign a few ready made starters and really have the depth we sorely need! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexf Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Targeted that left channel and got in behind Trippier time and time again, in fact didn't all 4 goals come from that side initially? The most frustrating thing is we didn't look to fix the problem in-game and the inevitable happened 2nd half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, Heron said: I felt we started with the wrong tactics and kinda went in too open. It could have easily been 4 - 1 at half time let alone full time. If we started the game doing what we seemingly did at the start of the second half and sat in, looking to break out, and kept it tight then I think we'd have fatigued less and not been pulled around so much. Our midfield 3 were stretched apart often trying to cover full backs too much and trying to help struggling, slow centre backs. By the time the second half came we'd been chasing the game to get it level and were fucked. I get why we kept stronger players on for so long in recent games but this was always the danger tbh. Their change in personnel then won them the game in the scoresheet but performance-wise they got what they'd deserved from the first half. They're an excellent side, with an excellent manager - it has to be said. Champions League is vital to both clubs though to sustain this breaking down of the "big 6". It really does demonstrate the sheer ineptitude of the likes of Spurs and Man United that they have had such a fall from grace this season with such squad depth at multiple levels and time at the 'financial top'. Villa have rolled the dice on loans to get them to the CL. I feel they'll do similar next season with maybe an addition of one big summer signing. I think that works until they slip up one season and then they're pretty much out the frame. We're not rolling the dice and running a similar risk - expecting the same players to achieve or in some instances over-achieve relentlessly. Good old FFP eh... Great post, however Aston Villa are not an excellent side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, Kanj said: Hopefully Mitchell can pad depth and we can sign a few ready made starters and really have the depth we sorely need! Quite a challenge considering the starting fee for any decent players is minimum 20 million. Don’t envy him this summer tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 30 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Quite a challenge considering the starting fee for any decent players is minimum 20 million. Don’t envy him this summer tbh. On the other hand it will take very little to improve on the last 3 poor windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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