Yoane Wissa

[Shadow Puppets]

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

[Boey_Jarton]

4 minutes ago, buzz said:

£55m  

 

One saving grace is that he seems one of the most likely candidates to move to Saudi in a few years time so we might be able to get a reasonable fee 

This is the only way I think NUFC can justify the deal. Pre agreed to transfer to Saudi league in 2-3 years at a price similar to PSR book value. 

[Hhtoon]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

 

This all day. If he helps us secure European football each year then he's worth the ££. Not all about player trading

[Fak]

The way footballers look after themselves these days I don't really think playing into your early 30s is much as an issue these days as it used to be. See Vardy for example. Even Kyle Walker had some pretty solid tussles with with Mbappe in his early 30s and matched him for pace at both club & international level.

 

The only issue for me is that we're going to take a big hit on him financially given there'll be no resale value. 

[TRon]

9 minutes ago, Lotus said:

You can put all the makeup you want on it, it’s a pig of a transfer.

Extortionate fee for his age. We’ve had forever to research and scout players but have been unwilling/incapable of doing so. 
I’m sure he’ll do well for a bit. And then we’ve got a Wilson situation again but we’ve been robbed for the privilege.

 

 

At least we've got a proven striker for a very important season. That's a lot better than not having one. 

[ryanegg]

It is too much, but if he scores 19 goals this year again, it will be worth it.

[Conjo]

The forum member numbers doesn't add up. There's too many that wanted us to pay whatever Brentford were asking compared to how many are upset about what we have ended up paying Brentford. We're running at 120% capacity here.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

46 minutes ago, BottledDog said:

 

Who is not likely to be registered given he’s effectively a training cone

[ponsaelius]

One thing I will say that's frustrating about the overpay is I can't help but think we could have had him for this fee ages ago if we'd gone for him at the start of the window and would have probably had 6+ points now.

[Cf]

1 minute ago, Fak said:

The way footballers look after themselves these days I don't really think playing into your early 30s is much as an issue these days as it used to be. See Vardy for example. Even Kyle Walker had some pretty solid tussles with with Mbappe in his early 30s and matched him for pace at both club & international level.

 

The only issue for me is that we're going to take a big hit on him financially given there'll be no resale value. 

 

We are just scarred after Wilson who was made of glass.

 

And in 2 years time he'll have some sell on value still. Perhaps not as much as we paid for him but that's offset by finishing higher in the league than we would have otherwise done. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

5 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

Correct. 

[Jackie Broon]

6 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

We will need to get better at crossing the ball, he’s a tap in merchant so don’t expect goals out of nothing.

 

It's a bit of chicken/egg, we have been getting good crosses in but had no one with the instinct to get on the end of them, and without that we're less likely to try to get crosses in.

[Chicken Dancer]

Agree with most - expensive but very necessary.

 

The good thing about this signing is that we can hopefully replicate 22/23, when having Wilson (who was very decent at the time) allowed us to manage Is*k and bed him in relatively slowly. I know there was a period where one was injured and the other wasn't and it flipped. Forget we had Wood then too.

 

Wissa will start against Wolves, probably anyway.

[Coffee_Johnny]

19 minutes ago, alexf said:

No guarantees he will score the same amount.

 

Moving to a new team, even in the same league can be difficult, learning to fit into a new system, pressures of playing for a team pushing for CL etc. just look how it didn't work for Wood here but he's flourishing now at Forest.

 

Add in that he will take a while to get up to speed with no pre-season, away for a few games with AFCON and that he will be regularly rotated with Woltemade. I'd say 10+ goals would be a more realistic target.

Last season, in PL,  Brentford created 327 chances (15th most). We created 395 (8th most) so 1.8 more per game. Wissa scored 19 from open play (39 shots inside the box, 9 shots outside the box; 18.6 XG). 

Isak scored 19 from open play (38 shots inside the box, 8 shots outside the box; 20.4XG which seems to include the 4 penalties scored). 
 

Pretty similar in 2023-24. 413 (8th) for us and 325 (14th) chances created for Brentford. 
 

In short, we should create more chances for him than he has had previously and if we feed him, he will score. 

[Holloway]

New era, can't wait to see them both in action. This lad can finish,makes some great runs and has the striker's anticipation

[Crimson Cardigan]

We’ve virtually never had 2 good fit strikers in Howe’s time here, barring that one little spell with Wilson and Ballsak. I’m really excited to see what Howe can do with this setup.

[gbandit]

10 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

Your head seems a happy place to be and that’s to be admired. I’m a positive optimistic person generally but you put me to shame 

[Lotus]

8 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

At least we've got a proven striker for a very important season. That's a lot better than not having one. 

that’s true 

[TRon]

7 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

One thing I will say that's frustrating about the overpay is I can't help but think we could have had him for this fee ages ago if we'd gone for him at the start of the window and would have probably had 6+ points now.

 

 

We could probably have had Ekitike if we'd agreed to sell Isak at the start of the window. 

[Shadow Puppets]

2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Your head seems a happy place to be and that’s to be admired. I’m a positive optimistic person generally but you put me to shame 

 

I just try to see the best in situations, and in many cases, the best far outweighs any minor annoyances.

Literally the only issue with this transfer is perhaps a slight overspend. If that's the biggest issue in it, then we're alright.

[greenhill]

10 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

Mostly agree but I don't think we will get anything significant when we sell him. If he plays well I could imagine he stays until 33-34 or 35 and then move on a free transfer like Wilson.

[Andy84]

13 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I think £55m is a touch on the high side, but not outrageous. He's a very capable, good PL player, scored a shit tonne of open play goals last season from CF, and a decent amount from the wing the season before. Literally the only downside is his age, but it's not like he's 33.

 

He'll give us a couple of good seasons and then we'll move him on for a decent fee and all will end well.

 

 

Don’t bring positivity here please 

[Shadow Puppets]

Just now, greenhill said:

Mostly agree but I don't think we will get anything significant when we sell him. If he plays well I could imagine he stays until 33-34 or 35 and then move on a free transfer like Wilson.

 

And that's fine too. That will mean we've had 4-5 good years out of him.

[Matt]

If he can score decent goals for 3 seasons then disappears- it will still be fine. Not every deal is PSR.

[Lotus]

The absolute fixation with Prem experience is odd though, other teams seem to manage just fine buying abroad and quite frankly, our hit rate with non Prem players is exceptional.