Loki679 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 hour ago, Terrymac1966 said: Last year provides the best guide not when he was 16 He was 16 in 2020? Cos that's when he played in Ligue 1 (apart from 2 games). And I said 'A goal every 200 minutes at the top level.' so I'm only including his PL and Ligue 1 stats which date back to.... 2020. Bellend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 2 minutes ago, gdm said: im underwhelmed by this signing but you are making it sound like he’ll be missing half a season. He’ll miss 5 games max No, assuming he leaves the day after the Sunderland game he will miss circa 7 games minimum dependant on league cup inclusion it could be 9. If we then give him 2 weeks rest for tournament return you can tag on 2 more. so around 20% of the season. not to mention players always return poorly after tournaments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 40 goals in 29 years is worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Just now, Tonalis Bookie said: In FIFA rules your age is the age of your birthday during that calendar season, so yues from July 1 with a birthday in September they call it as his 29th season Never heard anyone ever frame it like that either way and seems a really weird thing to say. "29th season under fifa rules" makes it sound like he's about to play his 29th season of professional football Seems a weird thing to get too hung up on. Him turning 29 in September. Unless you also prescribe to Zero's way of thinking about African and South American players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Just now, gdm said: you don’t think generalisation of a particular demographic could be somewhat problematic? When we have to evaluate something based on limited information, you can only rely on trends and identify risks behind when you have to make decision and you have the resources, you should try your best to grasp more information to clear the above risk in Wissa case, certainly the club can check about Wissas metabolic age during medical and also check about his lifestyle and diet. Just like some suggest we should have check Tonali’s background and discover his gambling habit. That’s something the club should do So go back to your question. I don’t agree to make decision just based on generalisation, but I agree to identify potential risk because that’s simply maths. People from same region tends to have similar culture and lifestyle, grow up in similar environment. Another example I can give you is in China, particular province, due to diet (mainly marinated salty fish) the local residents tends to have the highest Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma rate across the region. I won’t say people from that province must bear this disease, however it’s definitely good for all parties that those people should have regular body check re their nasal conditions. Do you get it now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Just now, Mike said: 40 goals in 29 years is worrying. love a worrying post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 I just cant see how signing a player we wont have over the busiest period of the season makes sense unless it is already cover for year 2 of him being here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Did we ever even bid for Delap, Mbuemo or Cunha? Was always just that we were supposedly interested and fans were rightly excited at the prospect, no? I really don’t know. I don’t think we made a bid for Delap. We knew his price, which was his £30m release clause. We inquired with his camp and he told us he’s going to Chelsea. Mbuemo, Luke suggested we were to bid for him and Guehi but idk if it materialised. I think we knew pretty soon we could meet the fee but were priced out on wages. Cunha, I really don’t know. Probably just one of those “makes sense so Newcastle will bid” but don’t know if we actually ever did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 minute ago, loki679 said: He was 16 in 2020? Cos that's when he played in Ligue 1 (apart from 2 games). And I said 'A goal every 200 minutes at the top level.' so I'm only including his PL and Ligue 1 stats which date back to.... 2020. Bellend. WTF is going on in this thread?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 minute ago, Zero said: When we have to evaluate something based on limited information, you can only rely on trends and identify risks behind when you have to make decision and you have the resources, you should try your best to grasp more information to clear the above risk in Wissa case, certainly the club can check about Wissas metabolic age during medical and also check about his lifestyle and diet. Just like some suggest we should have check Tonali’s background and discover his gambling habit. That’s something the club should do So go back to your question. I don’t agree to make decision just based on generalisation, but I agree to identify potential risk because that’s simply maths. People from same region tends to have similar culture and lifestyle, grow up in similar environment. Another example I can give you is in China, particular province, due to diet (mainly marinated salty fish) the local residents tends to have the highest Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma rate across the region. I won’t say people from that province must bear this disease, however it’s definitely good for all parties that those people should have regular body check re their nasal conditions. Do you get it now? When was Wissa's drop off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: Never heard anyone ever frame it like that either way and seems a really weird thing to say. "29th season under fifa rules" makes it sound like he's about to play his 29th season of professional football Seems a weird thing to get too hung up on. Him turning 29 in September. Unless you also prescribe to Zero's way of thinking about African and South American players haha no im not on Zero's thinking. Especially as he was born and raised in France so it cant be situational effects like diet and nutrition in the early years he wanted to take into account lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 5 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: What’s the difference between “trying to agree a deal” and “incremental bids”. Oh and there’s that oh so ebullient, ever-present confidence again, which has seen us miss out on Delap, Joao Pedro, Ekitike, Mbuemo, Cunha and perhaps Trafford and who knows who else. Guess he’s been reading my posts about just calling a club and discussing a price. Thanks Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 There's a chance they are trying to get this done now, in order to get him to Asia with the lads. If we have a club doctor over there, he could even do a medical. They set off in the morning FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Going to have to be some jump up in our offer to get this done. Would think Brentford likely want closer to £40m based on Toney / Mbeumo fees. We’re £15m off that already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Going to have to be some jump up in our offer to get this done. Would think Brentford likely want closer to £40m based on Toney / Mbeumo fees. We’re £15m off that already Pay it for goodness sake we can't go into a CL season with 1 striker that has low stamina Edited July 23, 2025 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, Sibierski said: Going to have to be some jump up in our offer to get this done. Would think Brentford likely want closer to £40m based on Toney / Mbeumo fees. We’re £15m off that already Supposed to be offering £30m plus add ons. If it’s £35m then that’s kind of close to £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 19 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: No, assuming he leaves the day after the Sunderland game he will miss circa 7 games minimum dependant on league cup inclusion it could be 9. If we then give him 2 weeks rest for tournament return you can tag on 2 more. so around 20% of the season. not to mention players always return poorly after tournaments He misses 6 league games if they get all the way to the final. And why would he get two weeks rest? I don’t recall Salah getting 2 weeks rest and Ba & Cisse certainly didn’t get 2 weeks rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) We need to start tracking players career stats from the moment of conception when his dar blars his beans Otherwise, what’s the point ? Edited July 23, 2025 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 26 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: haha no im not on Zero's thinking. Especially as he was born and raised in France so it cant be situational effects like diet and nutrition in the early years he wanted to take into account lol Cheese, tabs and wine though… steer clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 14 minutes ago, OverThere said: Pay it for goodness sake we can't go into a CL season with 1 striker that has low stamina Too many meatballs? Swedes love their meatballs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Get it done no fucking about is what I say. With isak looking like he's still injured we need this lad in asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 13 hours ago, Fak said: I kissed Wissa and I liked it The taste of his cherry Chapstick Is Chapstick a euphemism for helmet Fak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Literally chap stick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo2 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 The internet was a mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 23, 2025 Share Posted July 23, 2025 Chaps TDick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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