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2 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

 

Begs the question, how are we perceived by the majority of players with no ties to the club? Are we seen as a big-time project with huge potential, an elite coach, massive fanbase, great players etc? I think for the majority of our fans, that's how i'd categorize us, certainly until this summer. Or are we just seen as number 7/8 on the list of clubs most players are looking to join when looking at the PL?

 

You're an up and coming talent with big potential and looking to move (Pedro, Ekitike etc). You say to your agent, I want to play for a top PL side. Here's my list, it's Liverpool, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs in roughly that order. If I can't get one of those, i'll settle for Villa or Newcastle if they'll pay me the wages? Is that the limit of our appeal? 7 or 8 on a list?

I think maybe this window has been a little eye opener for some at the club. Or are we doing something wrong? Its been the same over and over now, is it a coincidence? A better communicator or more experienced SD might do things in a different way. Who knows..

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36 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

In what way? Only Dennis Wise scouted him so I'm going off of shit info but he looks fairly quick, good feet, and powerful in the air.

 

 

Poor first touch, misses far too many chances, inconsistent and goes missing for weeks on end in the Bundesliga.

 

He's a bit of a clumsy ala Andy Carrol type, but with pace who has scored some bangers ( although his goalscoring record in the Bundesliga isn't particularly prolific) 

 

He's still young, raw etc (and that's what you're paying for essentially), but imo it's a massive gamble to suggest he's ever going to develop into a 20+ a season PL striker. 

 

Just my two cents

 

 

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16 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Was saying the same yesterday. Up until now we have got little or no benefit from it. Obviously the extra money, but as a pull, no dont see it.

 

We been targeting top players or young players with high ceiling and having to compete with big clubs who have the pull and offering bigger wages. Losing out Mbeumo, Pedro, Ekiteke etc didn't really come as too surprising for me. 

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2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

Isak and Botman signed when we had very different targets. 

 

Livramento and Hall were prospects. We're chasing quality that's ready now, because that's what we need to keep up with the teams ahead of us whilst juggling a Champions League campaign. If anything we'll have actually learned that from the likes of Hall, not that he was ever a bad signing.

 

Tonali is in that tier of player where he probably gets pinched from us this summer, such is the strength of the cartel's control on the market right now.

 

The point is that a player isn't necessarily worse just because he isn't one of the most obvious ones that the top clubs will also be chasing. We used to be smart and recognized our place in the market. It seems like we have now gotten ahead of ourselves, and think that we have the pull to compete for some of the top targets because of the season we just had. We are not there financially yet, despite the season we had, and these players also knows that. We need to be smart and creative like we used to be.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:


Christ if you ever needed evidence of Manchester United destroying young players he’s the poster boy. 

He’s too ugly to be on any other poster than a Wanted one.

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15 minutes ago, LaurentRobert said:

Poor first touch, misses far too many chances, inconsistent and goes missing for weeks on end in the Bundesliga.

 

He's a bit of a clumsy ala Andy Carrol type, but with pace who has scored some bangers ( although his goalscoring record in the Bundesliga isn't particularly prolific) 

 

He's still young, raw etc (and that's what you're paying for essentially), but imo it's a massive gamble to suggest he's ever going to develop into a 20+ a season PL striker. 

 

Just my two cents

 

 

 

Sounds like the perfect player that could be instantly dropped into the meticulously well-drilled and well-oiled machine that is Manchester United's XI :lol:

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12 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

He’s too ugly to be on any other poster than a Wanted one.

 

Could see him looking very smart in a 3rd Reich uniform from the 1940s. 

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Man Utd despite spending untold money on absolute fucking rubbish are now signing ANOTHER player for huge money with just the £130 + million spent this summer so far.  Wish we wouldn’t shop where these clubs do

 

 

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I don't care that it's Man Utd. These players are showing a massive lack of ambition man. They're not qualifying for CL next season or the 1 after. It's clearly not as important to players as we think.

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6 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

I don't care that it's Man Utd. These players are showing a massive lack of ambition man. They're not qualifying for CL next season or the 1 after. It's clearly not as important to players as we think.

He’s only 22 and will expect to be playing in the CL for them pretty soon. There’s not much to say we’ll be regulars in the competition either given what we’ve done this summer. 

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We have the crazy situation where cartel teams are using inflated wages to win players over, wages that these players simply don’t justify at their  stage of development. They can afford to make mistakes, one mistake for us at these price ranges and we are fucked. These clubs will always rise back to the top as the system is rigged.

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6 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

We need some siege mentality 

Exactly, I’d be happy with Wissa, Osula & Watkins, he’s a clever striker. 
We’re obviously being targeted, so get some in and let Eddie sort it out. IMO 😬

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If we think this is bad wait until one of the big 6 lose their manager and come sniffing after Eddie. 
 

We may as well fuck it off if that happens. 
 

If this window has shown us anything it’s that the ladder has well and truly been pulled up and nothing any team below the cartel 6 in terms of revenue will be able to change that now. 
 

Im very very quickly losing all interest in football because teams like us just can’t have a period of sustained success. One good year and your team is absolutely decimated by the big boys and there’s absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop it. The beautiful game my arse - the yanks have fucked it. Fat bastards.

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Worth noting that it's also not typical for every top six club to be spending over a hundred million in a single window. It just so happens that the moment we were finally able to get back onto the market with CL qualification and PSR headroom happened to coincide with a historic spending cycle for the cartel clubs, many of which had urgent need for upgrades due to underachieving/transitional squads, as well as the ability to spend due to being relatively frugal last year.

 

You could call that bad luck, you could also call it a failure to anticipate market conditions when choosing our targets.

 

 

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Just now, oldtype said:

Worth noting that it's also not typical for every top six club to be spending over a hundred million dollars in a single window. It just so happens that the moment we were finally able to get back onto the market with CL qualification and PSR headroom happened to coincide with a historic spending cycle for many of the cartel clubs, many of which had urgent need for upgrades due to underachieving/transitional squads, as well as the ability to spend due to being relatively frugal last year.

 

You could call that bad luck, you could also call it a failure to anticipate market conditions when choosing our targets.

Just shop in different circles. We can still get great players and I'm sure we will

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13 minutes ago, oldtype said:

Worth noting that it's also not typical for every top six club to be spending over a hundred million in a single window. It just so happens that the moment we were finally able to get back onto the market with CL qualification and PSR headroom happened to coincide with a historic spending cycle for the cartel clubs, many of which had urgent need for upgrades due to underachieving/transitional squads, as well as the ability to spend due to being relatively frugal last year.

 

You could call that bad luck, you could also call it a failure to anticipate market conditions when choosing our targets.

 

 

 


Absolutely. It’s a 4 team league with Man Utd pushing to get back to making it 5 team. This window they 5 have went miles clear. 

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