Kid Icarus Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Don't it always seem to go... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Pigeon watching for that second wasn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Really really bad, like. Two eminently stoppable shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 5 minutes ago, tgarve said: Pope much better than Ramsdale imo Massively better than Ramsdale. Most of you Pope bashers have had a wake up call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Ironically we didn't need his distribution at all tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Yes he should have done better for the second goal but so should have the 3-4 defenders in front him who stood like statues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 It’s the trade off that was mentioned for ages. You lose some of what Pope is good at. To gain a keeper better with his feet and I suppose the question is. Does that improves us overall? I’d say yes. As Pope has been poor for a while. But tonight just shows to me that Pope isn’t as shit as made out. I don’t think either goal goes in with him in nets. However, we’ll get used to playing with a keeper that is good with his feet. Plus Pope was making howlers in other ways. So it’s not ideal either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Dubravka of last season (and maybe this) saves one of those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: The thing that stands out for me is that he looks very small, but that might be through watching Pope for so many years. Disappointing from him tonight. Doesn't look like there's much between him and the bloke he's replaced, at the end of it all. He is definitely using creative licence with his height, like all keepers do. Barely looks. 6ft Either that or he just has bad posture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 3 minutes ago, SGSC said: Yes he should have done better for the second goal but so should have the 3-4 defenders in front him who stood like statues. Yep. I also just saw the second goal again and it was Big Dan Burn who actually stopped him getting a better punch out. They ended up going for the same ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Don't necessarily have a huge issue with him on either goal tbf. One flashes past him, the other is Thiaw's mistake that he can't react to. What I have a problem with and always have is his lack of command in the box. Something that we've taken for granted that Pope (usually) excels at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Don't necessarily have a huge issue with him on either goal tbf. One flashes past him, the other is Thiaw's mistake that he can't react to. What I have a problem with and always have is his lack of command in the box. Something that we've taken for granted that Pope (usually) excels at. Although Pope's been flapping a lot as well this season. Prior to that it was his biggest strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Don't necessarily have a huge issue with him on either goal tbf. One flashes past him, the other is Thiaw's mistake that he can't react to. What I have a problem with and always have is his lack of command in the box. Something that we've taken for granted that Pope (usually) excels at. Did you see his punch for the second goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Don't necessarily have a huge issue with him on either goal tbf. One flashes past him, the other is Thiaw's mistake that he can't react to. What I have a problem with and always have is his lack of command in the box. Something that we've taken for granted that Pope (usually) excels at. You're entitled to your gloat here man KI, that 2nd was fucking horrific Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: It’s the trade off that was mentioned for ages. You lose some of what Pope is good at. To gain a keeper better with his feet and I suppose the question is. Does that improves us overall? I’d say yes. As Pope has been poor for a while. But tonight just shows to me that Pope isn’t as shit as made out. I don’t think either goal goes in with him in nets. However, we’ll get used to playing with a keeper that is good with his feet. Plus Pope was making howlers in other ways. So it’s not ideal either way. Pope saves both of those goals tonight. I have this argument all the time with my mates. Pope is a great goalkeeper. As in keeping the ball out of his net. My new age mates think he is rubbish because he can't pass the ball very well with his feet. Now look at those two debates. Do you want your goalkeeper to keep the ball out of the net or do you want a great "five a side" goalkeeper that will play "one two's etc"? Yes I'm being sarcastic, but seriously who do you want? PS, we would have won with Pope in goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Just now, jonny1403 said: Did you see his punch for the second goal? Yeah, I'm talking about him not saving the shot itself though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 9 minutes ago, Rod said: Massively better than Ramsdale. Most of you Pope bashers have had a wake up call. Let's just forget his fuck ups at West Ham & Brentford to name two, wazzock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Let's just forget his fuck ups at West Ham & Brentford to name two, wazzock. And Marseille a week ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 2 minutes ago, Rod said: Pope saves both of those goals tonight. Howay man Rod we both know that ain't true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Let's just forget his fuck ups at West Ham & Brentford to name two, wazzock. So do we excuse Ramsdale after two games? Pope saves those goals tonight and you know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 10 minutes ago, Rod said: Massively better than Ramsdale. Most of you Pope bashers have had a wake up call. You must have been pissed out of your nut during the 6 goals we've conceded directly from his shit punching, shit positioning, rushing out like a mental patient at tablet time and shit distribution this season. Ramsdale wasn't great today but your man Pope has been fucking crap for a while now, you have absolutely no ground to be so high and mighty. Presumably you didn't rate Bruno's performance today either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 Again, we knew we needed a keeper last summer so the fact this is the best we could come up with is again an indictment of what our summer window was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 3 minutes ago, Rod said: Pope saves both of those goals tonight. I have this argument all the time with my mates. Pope is a great goalkeeper. As in keeping the ball out of his net. My new age mates think he is rubbish because he can't pass the ball very well with his feet. Now look at those two debates. Do you want your goalkeeper to keep the ball out of the net or do you want a great "five a side" goalkeeper that will play "one two's etc"? Yes I'm being sarcastic, but seriously who do you want? PS, we would have won with Pope in goal. Anyone on this forum can kick a ball with better composure than Pope. It's like watching a fully grown American kick a ball for the first time, the mechanics and muscle memory don't seem to be there. It's fucking weird. Anyway, we need a better keeper than both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: You're entitled to your gloat here man KI, that 2nd was fucking horrific I'd rather he just wasn't shit. I'm really hoping he matures like other 'keepers have like. I'd 100% be targeting a different 'keeper in the summer though. Edited December 2, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2025 Share Posted December 2, 2025 3 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: Did you see his punch for the second goal? He couldn't get a clean punch on it because he was challenging for the same ball as Dan Burn. They ended up colliding and the ball dropped to Porro. Maybe he should have done better but tbf Dan Burn would be a problem for most keepers in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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