Shak Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 It’ll require some top play from Wissa over the next couple of seasons for him to be looked at as a good buy, the whole point of getting him over a promising young player was that he wouldn’t need a season to get up to speed like a raw, younger player with a bit more potential and the ever exciting resale value you love to see in a signing. Mitigating circumstances with the injury and all that of course, but best case scenario seems to be we’ll have spent huge money on a solid PL player who is about to be on the wrong side of 30 and likely falling off in terms of quality. A cracking season next year where he is the difference between us making or missing the CL would basically cover it, mind you. I do wonder if he’ll even be seen as the first choice striker going into next season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Class we have to play him in midfield, as we've no idea how to play him up front. Dat scouting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 To be fair expecting anything out of him Vs man city is madness. If anything this is the game you drop him, throw on all the pace and rely on counters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 22 minutes ago, La Parka said: To be fair expecting anything out of him Vs man city is madness. If anything this is the game you drop him, throw on all the pace and rely on counters. Must be absolutely lost out there. Game passing him by. Ive barely seen him! Not his fault. I agree it would have been a good game for a rest. They must not be convinced of Joes fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Why the fuck is he sitting in front of the backline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 because he’s playing in midfield against Man City and it’s necessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, Smal said: because he’s playing in midfield against Man City and it’s necessary Then Eddie is wrong and he needs to come off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Probably shouldn't take off the only guy that has been able to find passes forward from midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I think he’s doing remarkably well tbh . It’s not his man who’s ghosted through and scored twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) The good news is that he no longer looks like a square peg in a round hole playing up front in this system The bad news is that he now looks like a hexagon peg in a rhomboid hole playing in midfield Edited February 22 by Moose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Woltemade has 10 goals for Newcastle this season but it would appear his immediate future will be in midfield. ‘Even when he's playing as a No.9, as we used him, it wasn't to stretch the line,’ said Howe, speaking ahead of Wednesday’s Champions League second leg play-off tie against Qarabag, in which his side lead 6-1. ‘The role was to come lower on the pitch. Nick is very happy playing the role that he has done the last few games, there’s no fight with him on that. He's very much all in because he wants to showcase his best skills and his best skills are technically helping us link play. He does have a freedom on the ball to take up central positions and to drift to a degree across the pitch, so he’s not in a stranglehold by the position in one place. ‘The future's exciting regardless of which position he plays in. The hardest season for any new player from a different country is always going to be the first one. Nick had a great start but there was always going to be a period where he found it difficult, where teams were desperate to stop him. 'Nick was always in our thoughts as very much a deep-lying player, a deep-lying number nine. All his best work came from starting higher and coming lower. Now, just starting lower and staying in the middle line, I don’t think is a great change. I’ve been very impressed with him.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, KaKa said: Woltemade has 10 goals for Newcastle this season but it would appear his immediate future will be in midfield. ‘Even when he's playing as a No.9, as we used him, it wasn't to stretch the line,’ said Howe, speaking ahead of Wednesday’s Champions League second leg play-off tie against Qarabag, in which his side lead 6-1. ‘The role was to come lower on the pitch. Nick is very happy playing the role that he has done the last few games, there’s no fight with him on that. He's very much all in because he wants to showcase his best skills and his best skills are technically helping us link play. He does have a freedom on the ball to take up central positions and to drift to a degree across the pitch, so he’s not in a stranglehold by the position in one place. ‘The future's exciting regardless of which position he plays in. The hardest season for any new player from a different country is always going to be the first one. Nick had a great start but there was always going to be a period where he found it difficult, where teams were desperate to stop him. 'Nick was always in our thoughts as very much a deep-lying player, a deep-lying number nine. All his best work came from starting higher and coming lower. Now, just starting lower and staying in the middle line, I don’t think is a great change. I’ve been very impressed with him.’ It's tomorrow night isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 30 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: It's tomorrow night isn't it? Yeah. That's a mistake in the article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If that is the case from Howe then we must surely have another striker lined up, with or without Wissa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 We're not getting another striker in the summer, unless it's an Osula replacement or Wissa's massive weight can be shifted. There's far more pressing squad deficiencies to consider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Holloway said: We're not getting another striker in the summer, unless it's an Osula replacement or Wissa's massive weight can be shifted. There's far more pressing squad deficiencies to consider Ironically a pressing striker is one of the things we've lacked this season, unless Gordon plays there. Edited February 24 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 A good striker would've netted us an extra 9-12 points and put us in the mix for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Ironically a pressing striker is one of the things we've lacked this season, unless Gordon plays there. That's Gordon's position to lose for the rest of the season imo, let's see if Wissa can offer enough to step in there to lighten the load Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Sorry if this sounds cynical, but why on earth should we care about maximizing his chances of going to the World Cup as Germany’s No.9? Are his chances better if we bench him instead of playing him in midfield? The only thing on Howes mind is to maximize our chances of winning football games, as it should be. Edited February 24 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It's a hope article so no doubt mountain being made out of a mole hill as per Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, Erikse said: Sorry if this sounds cynical, but why on earth should we care about maximizing his chances of going to the World Cup as Germany’s No.9? Are his chances better if we bench him instead of playing him in midfield? The only thing on Howes mind is to maximize our chances of winning football games, as it should be. I agree to a point, I have no idea about who else is his competition for the no.9 spot in the national side if he ends up being a deeper midfield/ play maker and doesn't add much in the way of goals is he at risk of dropping out of favour internationally? As much as I don't like how negative No Hope is in general he has maintained Big Nick seems the solution to someone else's problem, if we aren't ever going to move away from 4-3-3 and adopt a no.10 he may well fail here longer term (as an out and out no.9) We have however 1. got to do what's best for the club, 2.make do with that we have, 3. try and look for alternatives when the original position wasn't working. Misfiring wingers, general dip in key players form this season and being new to the league and thrown right in the deep end with minimal or next to no training time has also contributed I guess if I am also being cynical if he has a good world cup and we do decide to part ways it will help maintain his value and list of potential suitors. You could make arguments for all of our front 3 being moved on and looked at again out of the 3 we have I actually want him to work the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, Erikse said: Sorry if this sounds cynical, but why on earth should we care about maximizing his chances of going to the World Cup as Germany’s No.9? Are his chances better if we bench him instead of playing him in midfield? The only thing on Howes mind is to maximize our chances of winning football games, as it should be. Eddie is going to do what's best for the team, but you could understand if Woltemade was a bit apprehensive how it will be viewed in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 We need to demonstrate to talented young players that they can achieve their international aspirations with us. It's an entirely fair question, just stained by the tabloid presentation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Eddie's job is to get results for us, yeah, but that includes managing things like this. He has to manage his players and keep them happy. If this is a legitimate worry for Woltemade, then Eddie has to address it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) But Howe didn’t say he was converting him to a midfielder, did he? I thought he said he always saw him as a deeper-lying forward? It’s not really anything like Joelinton. Edited February 24 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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