Turnbull2000 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 His Germany goals I've seen looked to be piss easy tap in due to poor defending. Otherwise seen barely anything that demonstrates he can be a half decent striker. Or suitable for any other role for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Has everyone seen the new Germany away kit? Sehr sexy on wor Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Mein Gott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 If @Yorkie can fix it for me as a blue I’m tempted like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I’d like to see him start on Sunday up front, I thought Gordon was excellent at Chelsea but would like to see him get a chance at redemption here. I think at home we’ll have plenty of possession and I’d stick Gordon on the left and Murphy on the right. He needs to be told to play between the width of 18 yard box and get in the box. He’s proven he can do it earlier in the season and think writing him off as a striker is damning of the manager and coaching staff if that’s what’s happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, TBG said: Mein Gott Aldi Chewing Gum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I don't think it's rocket science. We are at our best when we press from the front and try and win the ball back high up the pitch. We're not able to press effectively when Nick plays as a forward, so we've gone back to what we know. Our best options for that are Gordon and Osula. Partly out of choice and partly out of necessity, Nick has been deployed in another role with mixed results to say the least. This whole season has been about getting by. The game plan went on strike last summer and his "replacement" got crocked badly and then has really struggled to move since he signed. I'm sure the idea was to use Woltemade in different ways and build him up to being the main man, but it became needs must. Realistically, Eddie and friends will have to decide how we're going to play next season. If it's as we are now, I don't think there's that much of a future for Woltemade here, if we're honest. Maybe there's a grand plan for a change of shape and approach, who knows. We've had no opportunity to train anything more or less since he signed, so we've reverted to default and probably looked better for it (certainly away from home, the home form remains a bit of a concern). Now his confidence is through the floor and although he's done admirably well in the midfield type role at times it feels like he is just there to plug 60 minutes. We don't seem to have found the solution to playing against low blocks, to me that's the type of game where he would be great in a 8/10 position but two of the mackems midfielders can run all day and I fear he will be left chasing shadows. This game seems similar to Everton in that respect, who have intelligent footballers in midfield and defenders who like to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Can’t be arsed to read the thread as I’m pissed but we need to give him the chance of redemption on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Something I can’t understand is people sounds like Woltemade starting upfront is the cause of our failure in pressing and defence. I keep on reading this for a few months already - while the real downturn of our defence record and league position began when Woltemade was benched at Dec and subsequently not allowed to play upfront again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 It is really unfortunate how we benched him for Wissa and killed his rhythm and confidence, and then Wissa turned out to be shit but Woltemade is ruined too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 It won’t be Gordon’s sort of game up top at all. Not that he’ll get much space on the left, either. I’d be tempted to start Woltemade. Maybe Barnes and Gordon either side of him. Can always interchange and shift formation a bit with those three and the likes of Joelinton and probably Willock starting, too. Murphy and Elanga aren’t going to get any space to operate down the right and this game probably won’t suit them from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 47 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: It won’t be Gordon’s sort of game up top at all. Not that he’ll get much space on the left, either. I’d be tempted to start Woltemade. Maybe Barnes and Gordon either side of him. Can always interchange and shift formation a bit with those three and the likes of Joelinton and probably Willock starting, too. Murphy and Elanga aren’t going to get any space to operate down the right and this game probably won’t suit them from the start. We made it easy for them at their place because we tried holding back. I'd go full on with the pressers and scare the shit out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: We made it easy for them at their place because we tried holding back. I'd go full on with the pressers and scare the shit out of them. I’m just not sure pressing a team to death who will probably look to go long and play for set pieces anyway is a great tactic. Alderete actually looks like a neanderthal and their team is full of brutes. Not saying Woltemade is a physical target man or anything. But just don’t see Gordon getting joy there. The same as he didn’t against Everton and we changed it early. Although TBF, that was equally to do with Joelinton wide left and Woltemade midfield, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 If they try to play it long then it should be bread & butter for Burn & Thiaw. We need to hassle and hound them from the off. We're better than them in every department, play to our strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 56 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: It won’t be Gordon’s sort of game up top at all. Not that he’ll get much space on the left, either. I’d be tempted to start Woltemade. Maybe Barnes and Gordon either side of him. Can always interchange and shift formation a bit with those three and the likes of Joelinton and probably Willock starting, too. Murphy and Elanga aren’t going to get any space to operate down the right and this game probably won’t suit them from the start. Gordons game / effort will be determined by whether Tuchel is in attendance or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I’m just not sure pressing a team to death who will probably look to go long and play for set pieces anyway is a great tactic. Alderete actually looks like a neanderthal and their team is full of brutes. Not saying Woltemade is a physical target man or anything. But just don’t see Gordon getting joy there. The same as he didn’t against Everton and we changed it early. Although TBF, that was equally to do with Joelinton wide left and Woltemade midfield, I guess. Said similar in the match thread. Pointless playing Gordon up front as they’ll just be sailing balls down the pitch. We lack creativity and there’s a high chance we’ll have more possession so Wolt up front and Gordon and Barnes on the pitch is a must. Maybe Murph over one of them for crosses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Gordons game / effort will be determined by whether Tuchel is in attendance or not This narrative is fucking boring man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, St1pe said: This narrative is fucking boring man Aye maybes but elements of truth are inherently correct with certain players imo, Gordon being one of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) I really feel a big end to the season coming for Wolte. Would be great if we get to the point where we hyping him up like earlier this season, we really thought we had got an absolute gem. I still think he’ll get back to that level he was with us. Go get your redemption tomorrow son 👊🏼 Edited March 21 by Fenham Mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Aye maybes but elements of truth are inherently correct with certain players imo, Gordon being one of them It’s not. It’s weird stories people have made up and can’t let go of to somehow scapegoat a player and team for poor form. Gordon has arguably been our best plus this calendar year and this shite still gets rolled out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, St1pe said: It’s not. It’s weird stories people have made up and can’t let go of to somehow scapegoat a player and team for poor form. Gordon has arguably been our best plus this calendar year and this shite still gets rolled out. We might have to agree to disagree on this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We made it easy for them at their place because we tried holding back. I'd go full on with the pressers and scare the shit out of them. Agreed. Plus pressing generally brings the whole team forward by 10 to 20 yards compared to sitting back. A lot of our crappy goals are because we back off and retreat too easily. Anyway - Gordon and/or Osula should be starting this one. As for Nick… he’s a centre forward and should only be played in that position. His performances against Union and Everton away at beginning of the season were the type we need to find more consistently. Edited March 21 by Maggies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 12 hours ago, TBG said: Mein Gott Das ist wirtlich schön. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 13 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: One for the punchable faces thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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