madras Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: He was there most of the time when should have had better service. Not what I saw, especially after Murphy came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 Respectfully disagree. As a creator of chances you don’t just play passes where you think the finisher should be, you play them where the finisher will put it away. Our wingers apart from Murph have to adapt to what Nick needs to get the ball in the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 On 16/10/2025 at 17:07, NSG said: Can’t get this out of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 As he bangs another pen top-bin… NICK WOLTEMADE, GEORDIE BFG! 🎶 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 This lad is something else mind, what a ridiculous finish again. No way we ever planned on signing him prior to the Isak situation though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 11 hours ago, Heron said: That goal man. Devine. Delicious. Scrum-diddly-umptious. Yet...worth nothing. 🫣 That was the major disappointment of the day for me. Always annoying when great goals ultimately count for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 9 minutes ago, LFEE said: That was the major disappointment of the day for me. Always annoying when great goals ultimately count for nothing. See Shearer free-kick away at Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 (edited) Imagine how many goals he would be scoring for us with top notch wingers around him, instead of mr. can't beat a man and mr. don't know what to do with the ball. Need to start Murphy going forward. Atleast he creates. Edited October 19, 2025 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 He's class and still think there's loads more to come from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 9 hours ago, Kanj said: Respectfully disagree. As a creator of chances you don’t just play passes where you think the finisher should be, you play them where the finisher will put it away. Our wingers apart from Murph have to adapt to what Nick needs to get the ball in the back of the net. And Id say Nick needs to adapt to being more of a spearhead when we play a 3. Its a 2 way thing which will come. Sounds bizarre but from that point of view, champions league and having international players is bit of a hindrance giving less training pitch time. Dont underestimate the loss of Lewis Hall from am attacking point if view as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 We still don't give him the ball enough in build up play. When he finds space give him the ball. Especially when he has room in front of him to carry it, which we haven't seen enough of yet. There was a sequence that led to Ayari's shot for Brighton that they almost scored from. Woltemade starts off with some nice link up to get us out from the back, and when the ball works it's way to Tonali, Woltemade wants it back where he can turn and carry it forward, and Tonali dwells on the ball and is trying to switch it wide to Trippier and loses it. Give him the ball back! As much as I like Tonali and Bruno, I expect much more from them when it comes to these kinds of decisions, and just doing a better job of maintaining possession of the ball and control of the game. Better use of the ball is going to be down to them two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 It’s more to do with the positioning of the wingers, against forest (first half) and yesterday the wingers are miles away on the flank and Nick is isolated centrally. He much prefers the ball into feet than in the air. Thats hard to do given the starting position of the wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 Just now, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: It’s more to do with the positioning of the wingers, against forest (first half) and yesterday the wingers are miles away on the flank and Nick is isolated centrally. He much prefers the ball into feet than in the air. Thats hard to do given the starting position of the wingers. I wonder if that was the plan yesterday, keep the width and try to play Nick on for oncoming centre Mids ? If so it didn't work and Nick didn't get enough in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: It’s more to do with the positioning of the wingers, against forest (first half) and yesterday the wingers are miles away on the flank and Nick is isolated centrally. He much prefers the ball into feet than in the air. Thats hard to do given the starting position of the wingers. Yep. That's been my biggest issue with how we've played so far. It honestly hasn't helped with Joelinton being a no show mind because it compounds the winger issue, I thought the build up phases looked better in the second half yesterday. I'm sure it will come good because I've noticed incremental improvements but it just depends how many dropped points happens before that point. Edited October 19, 2025 by Mole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 When the wingers got closer to him against forest in second half we were much improved. It feels like a hangover from plan a (isak, wissa). Woltemade is a weird player to play with, particularly if you’re used to Isak and have been coached extensively on a system that was never meant for a striker like Woltemade. When it settles down we will be a better side with more versatility in attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 6 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: It’s more to do with the positioning of the wingers, against forest (first half) and yesterday the wingers are miles away on the flank and Nick is isolated centrally. He much prefers the ball into feet than in the air. Thats hard to do given the starting position of the wingers. Hmmm. It's a tough one. I think in build up having that room for him to move around in and receive the ball works, because he will drift towards both channels. Makes it less likely he'll get crowded out when he gets on the ball. The Union game was a good example. I think the central midfield players need to do a better job of getting the ball into him earlier on and running off him when he's on the ball. Do think the wingers will need to do a better job of picking their moments to come inwards too though, but moreso further up the pitch once we're in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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astraguy Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 I think nick needs a partner rather then runners like elanga/Gordon , His hold up play is insane he just needs someone like minded imo him and prime wilson would of been deadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 On paper people like Barnes, Gordon, Ramsey and Wissa should feast off Woltemade’s linkup play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 Wissa can't come back soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 4 hours ago, LFEE said: That was the major disappointment of the day for me. Always annoying when great goals ultimately count for nothing. Feels like I can't even properly enjoy it man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 2 hours ago, Erikse said: Imagine how many goals he would be scoring for us with top notch wingers around him, instead of mr. can't beat a man and mr. don't know what to do with the ball. Need to start Murphy going forward. Atleast he creates. Tbh, he's scoring way more already than he's entitled to. Basically scoring off a single chance which comes his way in 90 mins. I think he's doing his job as a forward, it's the wingers and midfielders who aren't supporting properly, and I don't think Murphy is the answer either, since his main role is providing crosses. It's Gordon and Elanga who should be feeding off his lay offs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 We have compounding problems. The wingers would be better with Tino and Hall behind them, Gordon in particular who also has Joelinton on his side. Elanga is still settling in. It would have been nice for him to slot straight in and produce, but that's not happened. Forest had least possession in the league, so its a big change for him. Add in late acquisitions in the window, unfavourable fixtures so far, and a not-uncommon-for-us slow start and we are where we are. Better finishing, from Gordon, Murph, Joe, or Barnes and we'd have four-five more points and fewer folk talking about "not creating chances". Brighton threatened a lot, every time Minteh got the ball for example, but created few chances against us yesterday on their own park. Arsenal still rely on creating chances at corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 3 hours ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: It’s more to do with the positioning of the wingers, against forest (first half) and yesterday the wingers are miles away on the flank and Nick is isolated centrally. He much prefers the ball into feet than in the air. Thats hard to do given the starting position of the wingers. We’ve always played like this mind under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 Have just watched the goal an additional 100 times. He meant every fucking second of that who the fuck does he think he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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