Ellis H Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Elliottman said: This is what I'm asking though, we've sold Isak for £130, we've got 2 CL campaigns on the books, we've doubled commercial revenue in the last 3 years - how does all this equate to 'limited funds available' Unless 1. He's talking bollocks and just putting that line out there 2. Our Summer spending has fucked us He says the same things every window. Even when we were famously bidding loads for Guehi he'd say at the same time we haven't got any money. I assume it's him trying to keep prices down on the off chance that we try and sign someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: Fair enough. I'm not sure. Maybe it's something to do with the PSR cycle and we need to wait for June to come around. Oh @timeEd32! I haven't tried to run any numbers in awhile. It's all become very complicated, especially without the 2024/25 accounts yet. I think we're likely totally fine with room to run by the current PSR rules, but I do wonder if we don't actually have much flexibility using SCR. Presumably we passed UEFA's version for 2025, but it's possible it was quite close as the estimates using 2024/25 and their adjustments on Anderson, etc. had us failing before the summer. I have wondered if we've become very conservative in our planning after June 2024 in which case you'd be thinking: The CL revenue is a one-off If we're not in Europe the SCR threshold becomes 85% but obviously we have European aspirations every season, so we need to remain around 70% If we finish the season around where we are now that's around £20m less in PL merit payments than last season, which would offset roughly a third of CL revenue So I think the pessimistic explanation is maybe it's a little tight and we're pretty risk averse. I think the optimistic explanation is we're going to blow away our revenue records this season and we do have some money to spend, but we have a list of 5-10 (making up numbers) players we're really excited about and we decided we'd rather wait to pursue them in the summer then close those possibilities by signing someone else we're not as excited about. A lot of words to say I really have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Ain’t summer transfers going to be a shit show due to World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 hours ago, Hudson said: Ain’t summer transfers going to be a shit show due to World Cup. They are. We also have to wait for the glutens to finish feeding before it's our turn as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Not that I think it would have mattered a lot, but I still feel we sold the rat for 25m too cheap. Really wish we could have made them lot suffer for signing him, instead they seem to be just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Nobody said: Not that I think it would have mattered a lot, but I still feel we sold the rat for 25m too cheap. Really wish we could have made them lot suffer for signing him, instead they seem to be just fine. We folded in the worst possible way, it's only being mitigated by his injury and his awful start. Anyways less said about the rat the better. Cunt of the highest order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 hours ago, r0cafella said: We folded in the worst possible way, it's only being mitigated by his injury and his awful start. Anyways less said about the rat the better. Cunt of the highest order. £130 million after a summer of him and his new club pulling every single trick to drive his value down as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Yorkie said: £130 million after a summer of him and his new club pulling every single trick to drive his value down as much as possible. Yup, 125m * after him not being for sale, then maybe but for sale. Then 150m and then folding at 125m was poor. Add on the fact we let It drag on and then spent the money on someone who seems ill suited to our style and someone who is 29 and off the back of one great season. Nightmare fuel if we are being honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 This isn't worth our time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Most neutrals I spoke to at the time thought we did quite well with the Isak sale, especially given his form post cup final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Holloway said: Most neutrals I spoke to at the time thought we did quite well with the Isak sale, especially given his form post cup final We did as well as we could given he wanted to be away. How we spent that money is a different matter, but that's on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, TRon said: We did as well as we could given he wanted to be away. How we spent that money is a different matter, but that's on us. Not writing that spend off just yet,end of season review awaits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I think we got good money for Isak, he’s talented but prone to falling off. He didn’t break through at Dortmund, fell off at Sociedad and he’s done it again at Liverpool. He may still be a success there but it’s also possible Newcastle will be the best period of his career. There’s something flimsy about him. Only problem is we wasted the money we got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We managed the whole thing awfully. The money was ok but not the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 At the time I was all for playing hardball and not letting him go. In an alternate world where we'd hung onto him until at least this January, say (hence the loose link to this thread), I wonder how it would have played out. You'd imagine he would have continued to down tools for at least a while or at the very minimum started the season unfit and off form. It wouldn't have done us much good on the pitch and there would have been a hugely destabilising presence in the dressing room. With Liverpool by then already having Ekitike presumably playing as well as he has I wonder if they'd have been back for him, or if so for as much. Perhaps likely he'd have gone somewhere at some point but possibly for a lot less. I.e. not sure it would have worked out well for either party in the end. That's obviously a counterfactual and we can't know what would have happened. But I'm inclined to make the best of it and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Abacus said: At the time I was all for playing hardball and not letting him go. In an alternate world where we'd hung onto him until at least this January, say (hence the loose link to this thread), I wonder how it would have played out. You'd imagine he would have continued to down tools for at least a while or at the very minimum started the season unfit and off form. It wouldn't have done us much good on the pitch and there would have been a hugely destabilising presence in the dressing room. With Liverpool by then already having Ekitike presumably playing as well as he has I wonder if they'd have been back for him, or if so for as much. Perhaps likely he'd have gone somewhere at some point but possibly for a lot less. I.e. not sure it would have worked out well for either party in the end. That's obviously a counterfactual and we can't know what would have happened. But I'm inclined to make the best of it and move on. The whole thing starts with Staveley. Then the whole Mitchell fiasco. By the time we get to June 2025 we are in an unrecoverable position. Our DOF was leaving and our best player had informed the club he wanted to leave and the club for some reason didn’t take it seriously. At that point we’re fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 https://archive.ph/KkhBV PIF signings rating… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On Osula ‘For the same money we could have signed Liam Delap’ I hate football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Quote “The activity has been incredibly high. We didn’t find the right opportunity for an acquisition but we had the room to do so.” Hopkinson added: “The No.1 thing I talk to the ownership about is ambition. That’s the magic word here. “We have total alignment on that. This is a club that, by 2030, will be consistently contending for the top prizes in global football. We have a lot of wood to chop between here and there. When I see Newcastle United, everywhere I look, I see opportunity.” Time will tell. But promising for summer flexibility. Also a big risk for the here and now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Probably be uproar in this thread if Bruno, Miley, Joelinton miss out vs Brentford and we lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I cannot *wait* to hear what the fuck went down last month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Looks like the pasta Nonce is about to be exposed as a shill for hire. I'd be amazed if Ornstein doesn't run a similar scam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Elbel1 said: Looks like the pasta Nonce is about to be exposed as a shill for hire. I'd be amazed if Ornstein doesn't run a similar scam. Glad this is being exposed. I wonder what Liverpool paid for the rat package? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 We saw how Aston Villa signing/loaning a few players last January gave them the energy/optimism needed to finish the season the way they did. Something is seriously broken at this club if we couldn't find anyone to give us a similar injection. Can't comprehend how it could happen and how anyone can defend it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 ‘An extraordinary window’ - David Hopkinson “Let me tell you, this was an extraordinary transfer window in terms of activity,” the Canadian told talkSPORT. “We have an amazing sporting director in Ross Wilson. He’s been my first call in the morning and last call at night every day this month. “The activity has been incredibly high. We didn’t find the right opportunity for an acquisition but we had the room to do so.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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