Kanj Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 always thought the leazes idea seemed to make most sense if a new one had to be built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. lovely work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Would it be possible to uproot the Leazes Terrace homes and move them elsewhere in the city centre? https://www.homelight.com/blog/cost-of-moving-house/ Possible? Yes. Should it? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Take the pitch down 10 metres. re-profile the lower stands should get an extra 15k in? 20+ with safe standing. Is this for all the mackems bairns jumping ship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Looks photoshopped to me, no dead pigeons and SD signs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Love the re-configuring of the park without losing green space. Love that we could start building while still playing next door. Maybe not anytime soon, but when we need an upgrade, that'd get my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 You would never have the car park that far away from the ground. It would be needed closer as its to serve officials, players etc. If it's to serve fans I wouldnt even bother with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 You would never have the car park that far away from the ground. It would be needed closer as its to serve officials, players etc. Could have an underground car park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 You would never have the car park that far away from the ground. It would be needed closer as its to serve officials, players etc. If it's to serve fans I wouldnt even bother with that. Surely the car parks in a complete new build ground would be under the stands? I think moving the car park to the gallowgate end in this mockup was just a bit of artistic license. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Would it be possible to uproot the Leazes Terrace homes and move them elsewhere in the city centre? https://www.homelight.com/blog/cost-of-moving-house/ No. They're Grade I listed. That's like asking if you can move Durham Cathedral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I don't think these Saudis will be put off by an extravagant building project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 It's not a case of whether its physically possible or not. The whole terrace is Grade I listed as a collective, with which the location, setting and historical context is all part of. You can not move it. And nor should you anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. lovely work. Love this. Essentially means it can still be SJP. Not a fan of moving somewhere and losing all that history and feel. This would be a happy medium if its possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Just looking at this again and wondering how much more scope for ground improvement there could have been if only Grainger had built Leazes Terrace where the fuckin tennis courts are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Just looking at this again and wondering how much more scope for ground improvement there could have been if only Grainger had built Leazes Terrace where the fuckin tennis courts are. Built in the 1830s. Football started at SJP in 1880. We should have picked somewhere away from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Just looking at this again and wondering how much more scope for ground improvement there could have been if only Grainger had built Leazes Terrace where the fuckin tennis courts are. Built in the 1830s. Football started at SJP in 1880. We should have picked somewhere away from it I wasn't being, like, entirely serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Doubt that the new owners would want to move out from the city center. They would know how much revenue the stadium in the city could generate and how unique the situation is. They'll get the best lawyers, architechts, engineers whatever to get the stadium around that proposed area if it was a viable option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 It's not a case of whether its physically possible or not. The whole terrace is Grade I listed as a collective, with which the location, setting and historical context is all part of. You can not move it. And nor should you anyway. Correct. As I have said many times on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Can't believe they're Grade I listed. They don't exactly stand out. But then I know nowt about why buildings get listed in certain ways. Only two grades has never made much sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. Just looking at this again and wondering how much more scope for ground improvement there could have been if only Grainger had built Leazes Terrace where the fuckin tennis courts are. Built in the 1830s. Football started at SJP in 1880. We should have picked somewhere away from it I wasn't being, like, entirely serious Either was I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Can't believe they're Grade I listed. They don't exactly stand out. But then I know nowt about why buildings get listed in certain ways. Only two grades has never made much sense to me. This provides good read about the characteristics of the area: https://newcastle.gov.uk/sites/default/files/planning/Leazes%20Character%20Statement.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Bored, I knocked this up as a possibility. No green space lost, extra car park for around 80 vehicles. Can just picture some geese making their way through the turnstyles. This would be the ideal solution, brand new stadium and still maintain the uniqueness of the location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Can't believe they're Grade I listed. They don't exactly stand out. But then I know nowt about why buildings get listed in certain ways. Only two grades has never made much sense to me. Actually there are three: Grade I, II* and II. About 90% of all listed buildings are Grade II, about 7% Grade II*, Grade I is for buildings of exceptional significance. Architectural and historic significance come from more than just aesthetic value but you need new eyes if you think that Leazes Terrace doesn't stand out, it's a stunning example of Georgian architecture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Can't believe they're Grade I listed. They don't exactly stand out. But then I know nowt about why buildings get listed in certain ways. Only two grades has never made much sense to me. Actually there are three: Grade I, II* and II. About 90% of all listed buildings are Grade II, about 7% Grade II*, Grade I is for buildings of exceptional significance. Architectural and historic significance come from more than just aesthetic value but you need new eyes if you think that Leazes Terrace doesn't stand out, it's a stunning example of Georgian architecture. Leazes Terrace is beautiful . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Can't believe they're Grade I listed. They don't exactly stand out. But then I know nowt about why buildings get listed in certain ways. Only two grades has never made much sense to me. Actually there are three: Grade I, II* and II. About 90% of all listed buildings are Grade II, about 7% Grade II*, Grade I is for buildings of exceptional significance. Architectural and historic significance come from more than just aesthetic value but you need new eyes if you think that Leazes Terrace doesn't stand out, it's a stunning example of Georgian architecture. It's obviously a nice building but compared with Westminster Palace and York Minster, which are also Grade I, they're not really up to much. That being said, I've absolutely no doubt that a building conservationist would recoil at what I'm saying because, like I say, I don't actually know what I'm talking about and obviously there's significantly more to such a designation than sheer appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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