St James' Park

[NE27]

3 hours ago, MarkyMark said:

though ultimately you’d have an expensive site available once a move is complete.

 

Isn't this the councils land so we wouldn't really benefit at all from the redundant land left behind?

[Ben]

I'm pleased to say my hatred a of Ashley has no diminished since he fucked off...........which is nice.

[Yorkie]

4 hours ago, MarkyMark said:

For all the griping about Ashley ‘stopping expansion potential’ by selling the land,

 

Interesting take again, Marky but I take issue with the tone here.  Whether or not there was the possibility for expansion, selling off that asset for absolutely zero benefit to the club was friggin disgraceful. It could have been used for anything.

 

If the only way to get a bigger stadium is to move then I think I'd rather stick with 52,000 and tart up the eyesore. 

[Decky]

Selling land right beside our stadium was insane even if it wasn’t for expansion. We could have done absolutely anything with it. Now we can do fuck all and the likelihood is tall buildings that block views of SJP from around the city will be fired up. 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Decky

[LeeB]

I don't know how far along it ever got as it was announced just before Ashley bought the club, but in early 2007 there were plans to expand the Gallowgate by 8000 using the land on top of the metro station. That increase in capacity doesn't sound enough to me to make the whole stadium minus the East Stand an equal height, but it does suggest that in theory it is possible.

[manorpark]

11 minutes ago, Decky said:

Selling land right beside our stadium was insane even if it wasn’t for expansion. We could have done absolutely anything with it.

 

Now we can do fuck all and the likelihood is tall buildings that block views of SJP from around the city will be fired up. 

 

 

 

 

In a very successful and prosperous City Centre, such as ours, any "distance views" of anything in that City Centre are unlikely to last for long. Due to the lack of development of the temporary car park in front of St James' Metro Station, we have actually had these views (of SJP) for a lot of years.

 

One way or the other that 'gap site' will be built on sooner or later.

 

Already there are tall new buildings next to the Strawberry Pub, and currently there are even more tall new buildings being constucted 'around' the Strawberry as the Headquarters of Home Group Ltd. 

 

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/strawberry-place-home-group-headquarters-and-vita-student-accommodation-newcastle-various-u-c.981402/post-176383855

 

Gap Sites in City Centre locations are always just temporary, no matter how much some of us may want some of them to remain.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by manorpark

[bigfella]

1 minute ago, LeeB said:

I don't know how far along it ever got as it was announced just before Ashley bought the club, but in early 2007 there were plans to expand the Gallowgate by 8000 using the land on top of the metro station. That increase in capacity doesn't sound enough to me to make the whole stadium minus the East Stand an equal height, but it does suggest that in theory it is possible.

 

When we built level 7, the capacity increased by roughly 16,000.

Just off the top of my head, that would equate to around 9-10,000 in the Milburn and 6-7,000 in the Leazes.

I would imagine you'd be looking at a similar increase to the Leazes expansion, with a couple of thousand added on for the South West corner.

[LeeB]

8 minutes ago, bigfella said:

 

When we built level 7, the capacity increased by roughly 16,000.

Just off the top of my head, that would equate to around 9-10,000 in the Milburn and 6-7,000 in the Leazes.

I would imagine you'd be looking at a similar increase to the Leazes expansion, with a couple of thousand added on for the South West corner.

 

That would work out then.

 

Article in the Guardian from 2007 about it: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/apr/03/newsstory.sport3

 

Then a few months later this was in the Chronicle, whose links I won't bother posting:

 

Quote

"Now that Bruce Shepherd has gone and Ashley has launched his review of Newcastle United, the expansion could never happen.
A lot of work was starting to be put into the plans, with lots of discussions with planners and architects taking place.
But it all could come to nothing if Mr Ashley decides he is not interested."

 

And that was that.

[Whitley mag]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

Interesting take again, Marky but I take issue with the tone here.  Whether or not there was the possibility for expansion, selling off that asset for absolutely zero benefit to the club was friggin disgraceful. It could have been used for anything.

 

If the only way to get a bigger stadium is to move then I think I'd rather stick with 52,000 and tart up the eyesore. 

You can’t stick with 52000 and claim to be a big club when the likes of West Ham, Spurs, Man City and soon Everton will all have surpassed us.
 

Leeds also have plans to expand Elland Road,  we can’t stay at St Jame’s if expansion is not possible. 
 

The reason many of us are so excited about this takeover is the untapped potential of what this club could become, we simply can’t tie ourselves to St Jame’s because of an emotional attachment.

 

Castle Leazes is still probably the best option, it opens up Leazes Terrace and keeps City Centre location.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by Whitley mag

[Shadow Puppets]

I like the idea of a new stadium like, ideally in the Leazes Park location. 

[GWN]

18 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

You can’t stick with 52000 and claim to be a big club when the likes of West Ham, Spurs, Man City and soon Everton will all have surpassed us.
 

Leeds also have plans to expand Elland Road,  we can’t stay at St Jame’s if expansion is not possible. 
 

The reason many of us are so excited about this takeover is the untapped potential of what this club could become, we simply can’t tie ourselves to St Jame’s because of an emotional attachment.

 

Castle Leazes is still probably the best option, it opens up Leazes Terrace and keeps City Centre location.

 

 

 

 

Chelsea are a big club …..42k maximum? 
 

We are a long way off ever moving , one thing at a time eh? 

[Big River]

calling SJP a lopsided eyesore is a fucking disgrace.

[Guest HTT II]

9 minutes ago, HUGZ said:

calling SJP a lopsided eyesore is a fucking disgrace.

Mackemesque 

[Yorkie]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

You can’t stick with 52000 and claim to be a big club when the likes of West Ham, Spurs, Man City and soon Everton will all have surpassed us.
 

Leeds also have plans to expand Elland Road,  we can’t stay at St Jame’s if expansion is not possible. 
 

The reason many of us are so excited about this takeover is the untapped potential of what this club could become, we simply can’t tie ourselves to St Jame’s because of an emotional attachment.

 

Castle Leazes is still probably the best option, it opens up Leazes Terrace and keeps City Centre location.

 

 

 

 

Etihad - 55,000

Amsterdam Arena - 55,000

Anfield - 53,000

Stamford Bridge - 41,000

Parc des Princes - 48,000

Juventus Stadium - 41,000

 

The capacity is perfectly fine for a club with aspirations of getting into the *represses vomit* Champions League. It just needs upgrading, modernising, a lot of TLC. 

 

I'm all for 'playing the game' if we're ever going to be a club that gets anywhere close to its ceiling (which is why I voted for the second option above rather than the top one), but moving away from SJP feels like selling a massive chunk of the soul, and too costly a price just for the sake of trading blows with insipid institutions like Chelsea, PSG and Juve. It would also feel very unnecessary. 

 

We've already got a fantastic stadium that just needs a lot of love. We don't need a new one. 

[Whitley mag]

1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

 

Etihad - 55,000

Amsterdam Arena - 55,000

Anfield - 53,000

Stamford Bridge - 41,000

Parc des Princes - 48,000

Juventus Stadium - 41,000

 

The capacity is perfectly fine for a club with aspirations of getting into the *represses vomit* Champions League. It just needs upgrading, modernising, a lot of TLC. 

 

I'm all for 'playing the game' if we're ever going to be a club that gets anywhere close to its ceiling (which is why I voted for the second option above rather than the top one), but moving away from SJP feels like selling a massive chunk of the soul, and too costly a price just for the sake of trading blows with insipid institutions like Chelsea, PSG and Juve. It would also feel very unnecessary. 

 

We've already got a fantastic stadium that just needs a lot of love. We don't need a new one. 

Chelsea and Liverpool both have plans to increase their stadium, they’re not standing still.

 

When the time comes if you can’t expand St Jame’s with potentially 10000 to 15000 wanting in for certain games, the only option is to move.

 

These people aren’t here to be middle of the road they build new cities from sand. I think folk will have to move with the times and be prepared to match the new owners ambition.

[Guest HTT II]

The warm down room complete, looks well shit 

 

[GWN]

4 minutes ago, HTT II said:

The warm down room complete, looks well shit 

 

 

it’s basically some artificial grass , 2  bikes and a dozen chairs 

 

very SDIRECT UTD 

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, GWN said:

 

it’s basically some artificial grass , 2  bikes and a dozen chairs 

 

very SDIRECT UTD 

It’s good they’ve done this obviously on request of the manager, but given the space used up, it’s kind of shit how it’s been executed. My boy’s team have had their club house in door training pitch redone and it’s much better.

[GWN]

2 minutes ago, HTT II said:

It’s good they’ve done this obviously on request of the manager, but given the space used up, it’s kind of shit how it’s been executed. My boy’s team have had their club house in door training pitch redone and it’s much better.

It’s  a quick temporary fix/ask , remember we had fuck all .

 

things will be different in 5 years , I’m told 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2021 by GWN

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, GWN said:

It’s  a quick temporary fix/ask , remember we had fuck all .

 

things will be different in 5 years , I’m told 

 

 

 

I’m not complaining and again, it’s a good sign the owners will do what the manager requests, but I’ve seen better balconies kitted out. It’s very amateurish/Ashleyish, like painting the walls of SJP with some matte black paint.

[midds]

20 minutes ago, HTT II said:

The warm down room complete, looks well shit 

 

It's what used to be the player's lounge, Howe thought a warm up area was more useful so he changed the room immediately. I hope it's not quite finished yet however It's very 'sparse'. 

[Happinesstan]

14 hours ago, POOT 2.0 said:

Breaking: ASM insured in freak warm-down accident. Trips on badly laid Storey's Carpet fake grass. Club insider: "Wey, it was only £6.99 SQM. Stupid not to!". 

A source close to Storey's stated: "I love carpets me"

[nufcjb]

So from wallpaper, we have now moved to carpets?

[Bizza]

 

  Happy days

[1964]

9 minutes ago, Bizza said:

 

  Happy days

Isn't that just one of the shops?