St James' Park

[Unbelievable]

12 hours ago, SAK said:

A supersized high stand like at La Bombonera would be a solution but you’d need a head for heights as it would be steep.

 

A very steep East and Gallowgate stand could maybe work, but the people living in Leazes Park would never see daylight again. Imagine something like the Mestalla:

 

[Guest carpetman1]

2 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

There was a time—young fella me lad—when sinking money in Pink Lane would have had a different, though possibility equally celebratory, connotation ? 

The same people that won't get the Pink Lane reference are the ones that want to keep the ground as it is, as it has "history". It may do for them, but as an oldie there is absolutely nothing left of the ground I visited when I was a lad. So yes, pull it down and start anew.

[Joey47]

Why is the majority of talk on here about moving sites when the owners have already said they want to expand St James? 

 

Would they have said that without knowing it is possible?

[Jackie Broon]

1 hour ago, Unbelievable said:

 

A very steep East and Gallowgate stand could maybe work, but the people living in Leazes Park would never see daylight again. Imagine something like the Mestalla:

 

 

I think that impact on the setting of Leazes Terrace and impacts on St James Street become potentially showstopping issues before loss of light.

 

The more I look at it the more I just can't see a way for any expansion of the East Stand.

 

I think the Gallowgate is probably the only viable option, if it's structurally viable above the metro station and we can buy Strawberry Place back.

 

 

[Cookie1892]

7 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

I think that impact on the setting of Leazes Terrace and impacts on St James Street become potentially showstopping issues before loss of light.

 

The more I look at it the more I just can't see a way for any expansion of the East Stand.

 

I think the Gallowgate is probably the only viable option, if it's structurally viable above the metro station and we can buy Strawberry Place back.

 

 

know for a fact that cunty Ashley would charge the earth for it and draw it out as long as possible

[Pixelphish]

18 hours ago, OverThere said:

Oh Oh, the woke squad are here. A building constructed in 1831 which is used as student accommodation and flats is "untouchable". Ridiculous

 

 

 

 Jesus christ.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Oh man, I missed that

 

I thought frothy right wingers wanted to preserve our great English heritage? 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Oh man, I missed that

 

I thought frothy right wingers wanted to preserve our great English heritage? 

Only those of slavers. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, carpetman1 said:

The same people that won't get the Pink Lane reference are the ones that want to keep the ground as it is, as it has "history". It may do for them, but as an oldie there is absolutely nothing left of the ground I visited when I was a lad. So yes, pull it down and start anew.

 

The average age on here is like 40 years old man.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don’t think anyone cares about keeping the structure of the ground as it is or not, it’s more about keeping it the same city centre location. 
 

If I understand correctly anyway, certainly is for me. 

[Guest carpetman1]

14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

The average age on here is like 40 years old man.

Average. So some are younger while others are older then?

[Jackie Broon]

1 hour ago, Cookie1892 said:

know for a fact that cunty Ashley would charge the earth for it and draw it out as long as possible

 

He doesn't own it, he sold it on to developers, who then went into administration in December.

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, carpetman1 said:

Average. So some are younger while others are older then?

Don't think there's anyone young enough that they don't know about Pink Lane.

[Cookie1892]

10 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

He doesn't own it, he sold it on to developers, who then went into administration in December.

oh didnt know that

[Yorkie]

I can remember someone posting some designs on here which show the pitch rotated 90 degrees (with the Gallowgate/Leazes therefore overlooking the touchlines as opposed to the goal-lines). I'm not a huge fan of the idea but you get the feeling that it's going to take a radical design solution like that to overcome the issues of Leazes Terrace because, as Jackie Broon says, extending the East Stand at this point is a total dead end of an idea. 

 

2 hours ago, carpetman1 said:

as an oldie there is absolutely nothing left of the ground I visited when I was a lad. So yes, pull it down and start anew.

 

Even if you have no affection for its architecture and design, it's the same plot of land that every single NUFC player who's ever played for us has run out on. Does that not count for anything? Surely after 125+ years of history it does? 

[macphisto]

25 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I can remember someone posting some designs on here which show the pitch rotated 90 degrees (with the Gallowgate/Leazes therefore overlooking the touchlines as opposed to the goal-lines). I'm not a huge fan of the idea but you get the feeling that it's going to take a radical design solution like that to overcome the issues of Leazes Terrace because, as Jackie Broon says, extending the East Stand at this point is a total dead end of an idea. 

 

 

Even if you have no affection for its architecture and design, it's the same plot of land that every single NUFC player who's ever played for us has run out on. Does that not count for anything? Surely after 125+ years of history it does? 

I'm not trying to be contentious for the sake of it but that doesn't mean anything to me. I completely understand why it does matter to some people though I think that is more about people being able to drink in town. I do like the prominence of the stadium and convenience of being central which could be replicated elsewhere. Just as an example, if the stadium could be moved to where the arena is then I wouldn't be fussed at all.

 

I did move away from Newcastle a long time ago so maybe I just don't have the same affection for the stadium as others.

[Disco]

Just have a sexy see through East Stand or one that retracts and folds away post game. Sorted. Piece of piss this engineering game.

[Rich]

It could just work like the lagoon stands on Jurassic World.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

18 minutes ago, Disco said:

Just have a sexy see through East Stand or one that retracts and folds away post game. Sorted. Piece of piss this engineering game.

 

Well aye. In the hazy summer of 2003 we went to France with the school and saw Amiens' stadium. Just replicate it on a grander scale.

 

[Wolfcastle]

The Bernabeu 90s expansion is an obvious but good indication of what SJP would look like with an extended Gallowgate and steep but smaller main stand/East Stand. Its pretty confined too though not to Leazes terrace degrees.

 

Pictures 15, 20, 23 & 25 on this

https://en.as.com/en/2018/12/14/album/1544782485_297892.html

imagining pic20 as a good representation of an East Stand expansion and its effects. (I'm only after a few thousand extra, not a Milburn/Leazes size)

 

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Wolfcastle

[RodneyCisse]

9 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

 

A very steep East and Gallowgate stand could maybe work, but the people living in Leazes Park would never see daylight again. Imagine something like the Mestalla:

 

That’s an amazing stadium once you’re in, I feel like the pitch might be slightly sunken too.

[Unbelievable]

Another way capacity could be increased on the East and Gallowgate stands would be to build two (ore more) stands on top of each other on the same footprint, like here in the example of Franklin Field:

 

 

[Jackie Broon]

The issue is that the scale of anything like that is just going to completely dominate the setting of Leazes Terrace and St. James Street. These views give a good impression of that:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.976243,-1.6210446,3a,75y,141.83h,102.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTgODrpa3fhJ6UTZt5I5MDw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9760909,-1.619656,3a,75y,230.45h,104.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1somzVKBBD62U2eSyrxrUiNQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by Jackie Broon

[Kid Icarus]

I wonder if there's an argument to made that because the existing east stand is solid concrete, you could actually build a higher, much more transparent stand and actually increase the light that Leazes Terrace gets.

[Guest neesy111]

The east stand is barbaric from the outside, could do with some cladding or something to make it better if it can't be changed structurly.