St James' Park

[Dr Venkman]

I never feel part of the match up on level 7, feels really detached IMO.

[Whitley mag]

5 minutes ago, madras said:

Level 7 may be a poor view from the Leazes. Its not from the Milburn.

I think the first few rows are probably ok even in the Leazes to be fair, but after that you may aswell be watching it on the tv for me. You don’t feel part of the atmosphere up there, just find it a poor all round experience.

[TheGuv]

Used to be great in the singing section 2009-2011ish. Haven’t really been up there since but could understand why people think it’s poor if there’s little atmosphere. A massive family enclosure doesn’t help. 

[madras]

7 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I think the first few rows are probably ok even in the Leazes to be fair, but after that you may aswell be watching it on the tv for me. You don’t feel part of the atmosphere up there, just find it a poor all round experience.

That's the same in most larger grounds though. You're spot on re the concourses though. I'm in the family section and for all it still gets busy it's nowhere near as bad as The Leazes or Gallowgate. Had an ST for the Gallowgate for yrs and didn't even bother moving from my seat at HT.

[bowlingcrofty]

4 minutes ago, madras said:

That's the same in most larger grounds though. You're spot on re the concourses though. I'm in the family section and for all it still gets busy it's nowhere near as bad as The Leazes or Gallowgate. Had an ST for the Gallowgate for yrs and didn't even bother moving from my seat at HT.

Yeah I’ve pretty much given up on a half time pint. I don’t think the fact the bar staff are pretty much useless helps like.

[Jonas]

9 minutes ago, madras said:

That's the same in most larger grounds though. You're spot on re the concourses though. I'm in the family section and for all it still gets busy it's nowhere near as bad as The Leazes or Gallowgate. Had an ST for the Gallowgate for yrs and didn't even bother moving from my seat at HT.

True. The big ground has not yet been invented where you feel as involved at the back as you do near the front. 

Towards the back of Wembley (Olympic gallery and literally the back row of the original bit), the Nou Camp and I'll bet the extra tier at Old Trafford for the semi-finals felt just the same.

Its either that or have a small ground.

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Jonas

[RS]

I’d ban over 60’s from attending. We must have the highest proportion of these old cunts as part of our fanbase. They are wholly to blame for the crap atmosphere. 
 

give them free pint tokens for a nearby working mans club and bring an injection of youth to our stadium. 
 

it would improve both the atmosphere (singing and the smell of stale piss) and the queues for the bogs in one go. 

 

 

 

 

 

[jack j]

26 minutes ago, TheGuv said:

Used to be great in the singing section 2009-2011ish. Haven’t really been up there since but could understand why people think it’s poor if there’s little atmosphere. A massive family enclosure doesn’t help. 

I used to sit up there when it was the singing section and proper loved it. Never been up there for about 10 year til the league cup games this season

Fuck me its awful

 

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by jack j

[Groundhog63]

4 minutes ago, RS said:

I’d ban over 60’s from attending. We must have the highest proportion of these old cunts as part of our fanbase. They are wholly to blame for the crap atmosphere. 
 

give them free pint tokens for a nearby working mans club and bring an injection of youth to our stadium. 
 

it would improve both the atmosphere (singing and the smell of stale piss) and the queues for the bogs in one go. 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't worry. The tories have been killing them off for 12 years. 

 

 

Groundhog

(aged 59 and 13 days ?) 

[madras]

28 minutes ago, RS said:

I’d ban over 60’s from attending. We must have the highest proportion of these old cunts as part of our fanbase. They are wholly to blame for the crap atmosphere. 
 

give them free pint tokens for a nearby working mans club and bring an injection of youth to our stadium. 
 

it would improve both the atmosphere (singing and the smell of stale piss) and the queues for the bogs in one go. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd ban the 17 to 23s. Spend all their time trying to look hard, act like they're coked up and and sing "We love Newcastle, we do" and ask who's "in nets".

 

madras (55yrs 8month)

[TBG]

3 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Some ideas here. 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11592001/AI-predicts-Londons-stadiums-look-like-future.html

 

Could always do this if people are so determined to stay at SJP. Get some student accommodation underneath and stick a new stadium on top. 
 

 

 

Yet when I came up with a similar idea/mock I got laughed at 

[Lush Vlad]

40 minutes ago, jack j said:

I used to sit up there when it was the singing section and proper loved it. Never been up there for about 10 year til the league cup games this season

Fuck me its awful

 

 

 

Yep, had an ST for a couple of seasons up there and it was great. Never renewed when Ashley broke it up and I was going up to games less and less, anyway. 

[Stifler]

3 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Some ideas here. 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11592001/AI-predicts-Londons-stadiums-look-like-future.html

 

Could always do this if people are so determined to stay at SJP. Get some student accommodation underneath and stick a new stadium on top. 
 

 

Fuck that, it’s bad enough climbing up to level 7, never mind level 57.

[Danh1]

Level 7 only feels detached because it’s full of people sat down in silence. As stated earlier, the Leazes Corner when we were first in the Championship and the season after was quality. 
 

Doesn’t matter whether we’re at SJP or a nee stadium, if people can’t be arsed getting behind the team and are sat waiting to be entertained, the atmosphere will always be shit. 

[Stifler]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

Small concourse’s, shit atmosphere, poor views from level 7, just some of the reasons why a new stadium is the better option.

 

Nobody will convince me sticking another tier on the Gallowgate End beats a new purpose built stadium a few hundred yards up the road.

 

 

In all honesty I think a rebuild of SJP on a slightly larger footprint, like what Spurs did is the best option. The thing is you encroach on Leazers Park and the only part of Leazers Park with any kind of structure on it. It would have to be sensitively done.

[geordiesteve710]

7 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Level 7 only feels detached because it’s full of people sat down in silence. As stated earlier, the Leazes Corner when we were first in the Championship and the season after was quality. 
 

Doesn’t matter whether we’re at SJP or a nee stadium, if people can’t be arsed getting behind the team and are sat waiting to be entertained, the atmosphere will always be shit. 

 

Definitely a lot of this going on on Saturday like.

[Mr Pups]

First time I've sat in level 7 for fucking ages and to be honest despite those around me spending half the time on their phones, the atmosphere was probably better than I expected. The biggest surprise was the leg room!! even adults could remain in their seats whilst you walked past them, more legroom....and what do they do? fill it with bairns 

[Mr Pups]

4 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Some ideas here. 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11592001/AI-predicts-Londons-stadiums-look-like-future.html

 

Could always do this if people are so determined to stay at SJP. Get some student accommodation underneath and stick a new stadium on top. 
 

 

where's the strawberry in that picture? imagine necking your pint at 2.55, be lucky to catch the second half

[LFEE]

Personally I’d close the turnstiles and concourse 20/30mins before KO and get people into the ground and their seats earlier to build up the atmosphere. Another lost beauty of terracing was crowds gathering earlier to get a decent spot and the likeminded fans together in larger groups slowly building up the atmosphere. Too many people turning up last minute to the ground and others just mulling around putting bets on or buying food & drinks minutes before KO.

 

The other issue which you can’t do anything about as inclusion is important is the amount of families going. Too many kids or wife’s and girlfriends  (particularly cup games) not that emotionally invested. 

 

On the other side of the argument you could say Man City at home this season was as good an atmosphere as there’s been at SJP.

[HaydnNUFC]

I'd just limit the size of the family enclosure in L7. Seems a bit daft that you have to be 13-17 year old or with a kid to sit up there. Make the corner around to the away fans general sale. 

[Mr Pups]

15 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Personally I’d close the turnstiles and concourse 20/30mins before KO and get people into the ground and their seats earlier to build up the atmosphere. Another lost beauty of terracing was crowds gathering earlier to get a decent spot and the likeminded fans together in larger groups slowly building up the atmosphere. Too many people turning up last minute to the ground and others just mulling around putting bets on or buying food & drinks minutes before KO.

 

The other issue which you can’t do anything about as inclusion is important is the amount of families going. Too many kids or wife’s and girlfriends  (particularly cup games) not that emotionally invested. 

 

On the other side of the argument you could say Man City at home this season was as good an atmosphere as there’s been at SJP.

i really don't get the food and drink shite, it's only 15 mins and people spend the whole 15 mins in a fuckin queue. Even worse people getting up on 35-40 mins and going...it isn't exactly difficult to get some scran in town. Half time should be time for reflection and a bit natter about what went well/wrong during the half

[Whitley mag]

Using the link below and comparing equivalent seats in Spurs new stadium down the side, I’d say you feel more part of the rest of the ground than level 7.

 

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/tottenham/

 

 

[Mr Pups]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

Using the link below and comparing equivalent seats in Spurs new stadium down the side, I’d say you feel more part of the rest of the ground than level 7.

 

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/3dmap/clients/tottenham/

 

 

nice interactive seat map that like, fun to use

[LFEE]

20 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

I'd just limit the size of the family enclosure in L7. Seems a bit daft that you have to be 13-17 year old or with a kid to sit up there. Make the corner around to the away fans general sale. 

Especially when there seems to be around 100 or more single tickets for this area each game that can only be sold to them and not an adult as no two seats together. Leeds technically didn’t sell out until day of game yet there were loads of older fans desperate to buy tickets for the game.

[Whitley mag]

2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Especially when there seems to be around 100 or more single tickets for this area each game that can only be sold to them and not an adult as no two seats together. Leeds technically didn’t sell out until day of game yet there were loads of older fans desperate to buy tickets for the game.

It served a purpose when Ashley just wanted to fill the ground, but the size of the family enclosure is ridiculous in the current circumstances and certainly does nothing for atmosphere. Turn the corner over to 16 to 21 year olds next to the away fans all standing, that’ll liven the place up.