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Apparently it’s between Tino and Wesley, never heard of him tbf.

What isn't: the design? The colours? The remake of the 98 shirt? All of the above?

Was worried when they mentioned city lack home grown players and wanted a left back but my concern was Hall and not Tino.

I don't mind Spurs winning it. I think we've overtaken them now. Man Utd though, fuck another £200m spent throwing money at it, along with another Champions League campaign.

32 (Jesus!) years ago - one of my favourites homes - Leicester 7-1 and the non-stop debut of the Andy Cole song! Scoring a hat-trick and not getting the match ball is quite a feat!

Not a chance the 3rd has a badge that doesn’t align with the colours of the kit.

What a relief. Pep needs some more money after that £200 mill spent in January

Happy birthday Big Van Burn

Also linking them to Tino.

I’ll be supporting both Manchester clubs precisely because it’ll mean next to nowt to them versus the alternatives. Fuck Palace and Spurs.

His first book is really good, like. Keep meaning to grab the follow-up and hadn't realised he had another one on the way.

I think I would rather Spurs win it than Man United, feels like it'd mean 10x more to them than Man United, I think Man United as a whole are mainly thinking about winning it in terms of getting Champions League, whereas I think for Tottenham its mainly about winning something. It'd also be really depressing if Man United have their worst season in nearly 40 years, and they still end up winning a trophy.

Very harsh, Yorkie raises plenty of salient points. Not everything has to be seen through a B&W lens. European football has been in a deeply unhealthy state for some time, and even the extension of the Conference League looks likely to be won by half-arsed big English clubs. Yes, we all want to win more trophies - but it’s perfectly reasonable to be concerned re the state of football.

Have you got a link to this specific rule? Assume the same would apply to Arsenal if they’re in Pot 2? edit - found it, although I’m not sure how clear this actually makes things?

Bournemouth has been the game they will most likely drop points in for some time anyway. The draw at the Amex was a good one imo. We always needed to beat Evertonand Chelsea but that draw is a safeguard against Villa.

Let's fucking hope it's Man Utd or Spurs.

What’s with the Star Wars font?

Shame we're not going to have a Bristol City v Coventry final.

From Dale Johnson ESPN This is like the earlier scenario relating to eighth and the Europa League, the difference being the European titleholder finishes in the first place outside the European positions. For this to happen a European title winner would need to finish eighth. This cannot happen this season. So, the Conference League winners finish in eighth place -- one below the Conference League spot. Chelsea play in the Europa League as Conference League winners, and the Premier League has eight teams in Europe. Champions League: 1-4 Europa League: 5, 6, UCoL winners (8) Conference League: 7 Now the EPS is applied with fifth in the UCL, and as this creates the plus-1 in all scenarios there are now nine teams in Europe. The European places drop down one, but as Chelsea already have a place in the Europa League, the Conference League spot "jumps" over them and goes to ninth. Champions League: 1-5 Europa League: 6, 7, UCoL winners (8) Conference League: 9 The same EPS logic can be applied to push the allocation down two or three places in the league. It requires multiple European titleholders to be in consecutive places outside the domestic spots, to create two or three "jumps." This is the effect of two teams winning European titles and finishing eighth and ninth -- 10th gets the Conference League spot after the EPS is applied. Champions League: 1-5, UEL winners (9) Europa League: 6, 7, UCoL winners (8) Conference League: 10 Add in the UCL winners finishing in a consecutive place, and 11th gets the Conference League. Champions League: 1-5, UCL winners (8), UEL winners (10) Europa League: 6, 7, UCoL winners (9) Conference League: 11

If English teams win the CL & EL and Palace win thr FA Cup there could be 11 teams in Europe Champions League: 1-5, UCL winners, UEL winners Europa League: 6, FA Cup winners, UCoL winners Conference League: Carabao Cup winners

It won't be one a off, how can these clubs compete? Football is obviously full throated capitalism and as the Premier league has the lion share of money domination becomes inevitable. Don't get me wrong we will have seasons where English clubs are no where especially in the champions league but for the other 2 competitions english clubs will generally be amongst the favourites.

@tgarve so many posts, I don't know which one to quote! It's a shame about the aggression cos there's some fair points raised there. First of all about bitterness. I'm always bitter. No arguments there. But it's bitterness about a competition I've always loved (and feel NUFC have unfinished business with) becoming devalued by structural changes invoked to appease a cabal of clubs. As for Sevilla, at least there was something interesting about their weird hex on the competition. Their continuous wins weren't due to the disproportionate financial strength of their league and the institutional decision to reduce the competition around them. @r0cafella I think my point is that it pretty much already is the Conference League; certainly this season anyway, with the winners just being a PL team who's steamrollered everyone. At least if you removed the CL carrot it would be about the silverware rather than the cashmoney. (I know it won't happen) I just find it really sad. I've harped on about PL clubs monopolising the Europas and this season it's finally happened. Maybe I've got my knickers in a twist over nowt and it'll just be a one-off.

Brilliant 😂😂😂

As you know man, we complain as fans rightfully so but the set up we have is exactly what the clubs wants. Well close enough at least.

The main issue is the stupid league systems in place for all these extra games. Sooner it all implodes the better.