James

Results in December. Time for a recount... Less than £100m - 4 (10.8%) £100m to £150m - 6 (16.2%) £150m to £200m - 11 (29.7%) £200m to £250m - 9 (24.3%) £250m to £300m - 2 (5.4%) £300m to £400m - 0 (0%) £400m or more. - 5 (13.5%) Total Voters: 37

Yep, you guys have goalscoring midfielders. We don't.

He doesn't need to open his mouth and tell the whole world about it.

Different managers have different injury records, and these records seem to follow them throughout their tenures, and as such causality can be drawn from training methods. You never seem to see good managers at clubs with bad injury records. Even Freddy Shepherd realised that the manager can play an important role in cutting down on player injuries by the end.

If he's not enjoying the job, then enthusiasm isn't going to rub off on the players. Instant sackable offence that in my opinion.

Always has been. The amount of muscular injuries we've picked up since Robson left has been laughable. Allardyce/Keegan succeeded in reducing it, for a brief spell mind.

a) We were like this before the injuries b) the majority of the injuries were probably the fault of Kinnear's training methods. how so? Because it is becoming almost statistically impossible for there to be no causality.

It is no coincidence that players are picking up non-contact injuries. Training is at fault.

It would be against MLS rules for Galaxy to sign Owen unless Beckham leaves.

a) We were like this before the injuries b) the majority of the injuries were probably the fault of Kinnear's training methods.

I'd like to clarify that this thread bump has nothing to do with Keegan. It has more to do with the quality of players at our disposal, and the ineptitude of the management to get the best out of us.

shouldn't the player's take some responsibility as well ffs Do you think they don't try on purpose? Funny how a good manager can completely change their attitudes. Perhaps they have bad attitudes, but it is up to the manager to sort out the man-management. Why is it always the Newcastle players that seem to turn into bad eggs? As far as I'm concerned, half the players would be like this if a manager had no control over the motivation of his players. The players are unmotivated, and the blame lies solely with Ashley, Kinnear and co. fuck off the player's should be motivating themselves, a player that need's motivating should not be at the club they are paid to try 100% yes i do believe 1/2 of the team are not trying and there's a few fan's that will say the same Ask any manager that is worth his salt: Robson, Ferguson, Wenger, Keegan, Mourinho. They would say that motivating their players was their primary responsibility. Something Kinnear won't take responsibility for. What do you base that shit on? (Apart from wanting attention obviously) His post-match interviews, where he'll make any excuse under the sun.

Don't think he'd come if we could go down. That's why I'm advocating someone at a lower level, because they would be making a genuine step-up.

shouldn't the player's take some responsibility as well ffs Do you think they don't try on purpose? Funny how a good manager can completely change their attitudes. Perhaps they have bad attitudes, but it is up to the manager to sort out the man-management. Why is it always the Newcastle players that seem to turn into bad eggs? As far as I'm concerned, half the players would be like this if a manager had no control over the motivation of his players. The players are unmotivated, and the blame lies solely with Ashley, Kinnear and co. fuck off the player's should be motivating themselves, a player that need's motivating should not be at the club they are paid to try 100% yes i do believe 1/2 of the team are not trying and there's a few fan's that will say the same Ask any manager that is worth his salt: Robson, Ferguson, Wenger, Keegan, Mourinho. They would say that motivating their players was their primary responsibility. Something Kinnear won't take responsibility for.

See Dave.

You get a lower level manager with a good record and lots of self confidence. Take a risk, if we go down, they'll have a better chance of coming up than Kinnear, and if we stay up, even better. If Kinnear stays, we'll be in this position in the Championship next season. If Messi-ah hadn't started that Martinez thread, who would you have suggested? I suggested Martinez weeks ago in this very thread iirc. If not here somewhere else. Now apologise.

shouldn't the player's take some responsibility as well ffs Do you think they don't try on purpose? Funny how a good manager can completely change their attitudes. Perhaps they have bad attitudes, but it is up to the manager to sort out the man-management. Why is it always the Newcastle players that seem to turn into bad eggs? As far as I'm concerned, half the players would be like this if a manager had no control over the motivation of his players. The players are unmotivated, and the blame lies solely with Ashley, Kinnear and co.

Look at this thread. Look at this team. What's changed (injuries aside)? In my mind the players are good enough, but the club management needs sorting out. urgently.

It's not as if Kinnear was a class manager with a decent record and we're just turning on him because of recent poor form. FFS. He was never good enough. Appointing hiim was a mistake from the start. Let's just get around to rectifying that before we're dead and buried. It was either him or Hughton. Take your pick. No-one else wanted the job. Getting on my nerves how everyone states this with utter certainty. If you were an unemployed manager who'd just left a Championsihp club, would you not jump at the chance to manage anywhere in the Premiership? No matter how shit? Well there are a few of those out there right now. And every last one is leagues better than Joe Fucking Kinnear. Do you blame the players at all or is it totally, 100% on Kinnear? Remember the 1-1 draw against Man Utd, the 4-1 win over Spurs etc. This lot is much better than what they are giving, but it is the responsibility of the manager to get the best out of this lot.

You get a lower level manager with a good record and lots of self confidence. Take a risk, if we go down, they'll have a better chance of coming up than Kinnear, and if we stay up, even better. If Kinnear stays, we'll be in this position in the Championship next season.

Kinnear will bring him back quickly and use his outdated training methods to crock him for the rest of the season.

Gone from 8 to 9. Injuries worse, no goals in the team, no quality, and the shittest manager since I've been an NUFC fan.

Look at it this way: If we change managers now there is a chance he can turn it around, just like KK got better performances out of this bunch of gifted but ultimately spineless players. If we go down, the manager can't really be blamed, and might be good enough to bring us back up. If Kinnear stays, we are going down and not coming back again.

I'd give Ketsbaia or Martinez the stint to the end of the season: "Here's your chance to show what you can do in the PL" They'd bite whoever's hand off.

With Owen's injury, I'd try to get the following deal with Manchester City: Given and Owen for Johnson, Benjani and £5m