Born in '84, can't think of a worse 11 we've ever had. Regardless of how they play for their clubs, when playing for England they are total garbage.
Evidenced partially by the fact that absolutely no top English footballers play, or are wanted, in other top European leagues since the early 90's (Hargreaves hardly counts).
State of English football is just shockingly bad, all we seem to do is produce athletes rather than good footballers, and as Barca show, you don't have to be the most athletically gifted to be so dominant. I still don't see what all the fuss with Rooney is about, Scholes is twice the player he'll ever be and he's knocking on the door towards 40 now.
Not so much as a debating point as a rant, been wanting to say this for a while now.