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More consistent so far than Oba? Or is that because i've watched more of Martins, so seen more of his bad games? Don't know tbh. What I mean is that I'm as happy with Oba than what I would've been with Berb. Berbatov MIGHT be a slightly better player, but Oba got time on his side as well.

Berbs is definately a great player. Great touch and great vision. As good as Martins, IMO.

Quote from Glenn on BBC site. *shudders* Depressing, AZ will have no trouble scoring two. I think we'll need two to progress, nevermind one. if we go through, we HAVE to start at home! Really! Surely it would be an advantage to play the 2nd leg at home? Yeees, but I'm in Newcastle when the home-leg is.

if we go through, we HAVE to start at home! Really!

He's incredible at PES6, so I'd say we should string up a 30m bid.

Where he played against AZ, ie Right Wing, but not a "crossing" right wing (Milner) more of a "bursting-into-space" winger (Lennon).

NE5, Why the fuck did you even bring up that talk about the board in this thread? It's a thread about Martins and his value compared to other strikers. Funny thing is, when you started, you even quoted the original poster who in no fucking way slagged off the board. You just make yourself look like a one-hit-wonder. Also, your slagging off of all supporters under roughly 20 years of age is pathetic, please stop that. We don't live in the '80s, when mediocrity perhaps was accepted. Oh, and if the Toon wasn't a mediocre club back then, I apologise; I have to admit, I do not know our history that well. Doesn't make me less of a supporter though. Stick to the topic next time, so you won't force me into going off-topic. Rant over. Oh and Toon's or GeJon, change avatar!

Why hasn't no one mentioned that he's already won a trophy for us? (The glorious Intertoto-Cup)

He'll definately stay for at least one more season (probably two or more). He won't be here all his life, so in that sense, we won't be able to keep our star striker.

Charlton's Luke Young

Only striker I'd swap for Martins is Rooney. Both are young, talented and have to some extent proven themselves in England. Mind, Van Persie is that as well, but don't think he'd fit in our current squad.

Get out of town!! It's 100% Duff's fault, man. I'm not in town...

That's great actually, most strikers are very easy to read, as you know they will always go right if right-footed and left if left-footed. With Martins, you never know.

For those who say that Owen/Martins won't work together... Martins has been banging goals in when he's played with both Dyer and Sibierski up front, i.e doesn't seem to have a problem adjusting his game Owen has been banging in goals throughout his career, no matter who he's played with. How unlucky would we be if it just happened that just these two won't match?

Martins. Of course there is Toon bias, but why would I enjoy watching another teams player as much as our own?

Ofcourse it was Carr's fault mackems.gif

I think they showed at 3-0 down that us scoring the first goal over there won't kill the tie. They can beat us 3-1, they can beat us 2-0. Those 2 daft goals we conceded are killers. Just how was that two daft goals? First one was an excellent move and a brilliant finish from them, the second was just unlucky, Taylor clearly held his hand as close to his body as possible and can't be blamed for that penalty.

Feels strange not being happy about scoring four goals and winning.

Not true. Parker > Butt

Wasn't the first time this happened either, tbf. He is ALWAYS screaming and waving for the ball, but never gets it Maybe it's cos he looks a bit spazzy? Probably

Wasn't the first time this happened either, tbf. He is ALWAYS screaming and waving for the ball, but never gets it

Both were immense, tbh. Duff showed some real quality there and great vision as well. Sibbers did the same, but in a more difficult situation.