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Most likely, imo. Can't see Allardyce falling for deadline day desperation. He's not going to change his policies and principles just cos Stephen Carr got injured. Na. I think Sam's basically said that because of the injuries yesterday that we need to bring someone else in now. Here's hoping.

If we get 7-8m for Dyer of WHU and about 1.5-2m for Nobby off Pomp, i'd be quite happy with that bit of business...... even though i'd rather keep Nobby as a good squad player.

I like the way Anal last week said something along the lines of "the Dyer deal will not go ahead no matter what the people at St James' Park want" or words to that effect. Indicating that it doesn't matter what the Toon want, he's telling them it will not go ahead. And now...... Utter wanker.

I agree in principle with what he's said although i think a lot of Keane's problems with attracting players is the fact that they're shite. For while i agree that a player needs to converse with their wife or whatever, i think it's a fucking joke that they turn down a club just so their lass can go shopping in London. I have to agree that some player's need to grow some balls and tell their lass that they can go shopping in London all they want in a few years time, but for now stop your fucking moaning. It's not as if it's the dark ages or something up here (Smogland and Scumland accepted or course )

Aye, anything to turn up noise at St. James' is alright in my books.

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/chroniclesport/tm_headline=bolton-wanderers-1-newcastle-united-3%26method=full%26objectid=19619326%26siteid=50081-name_page.html What is it with this idiot??? Absolutely fucking sick of this prick now. Even after everything that's been said by Sam about Martins this total knob jockey STILL goes on about us wanting to get rid of him for £10m? There is something going on here like, for whatever reason this cunt wants to unsettle one or more of our players on a daily basis. If it wasn't Martins of whoever it'll be someone else. I'm going to email the Chronicle to say i'm going to urge every Toon fan I meet/see/talk to, to boycott the Chronicle until this horrible little weasel of a man is replaced.

The potential is overwhelming. I agree. If a front three of Owen, Viduka and Martins works well it would be delicious. Also, great to know that we could also slot Milner and Zoggy into the wide forward roles occassionally, to give Owen and Martins a break, or to add more width should we need to do so. Fantastic options upfront. Aye we've just got to keep everyone fit now. (Fingers crossed smiley thing)

Aye and what's the bet he still gets in a "but it's common knowledge in football that Martin's can still go if the club receive a bid of £10m"?

I can also see when Owen comes back that when Sam plays all three together at some stage, that can cause a lot of teams trouble as when the ball is played through to Viduka, he will have both Owen and Martins buzzing around him waiting to be played in. This could cause a lot of panic in the opposing defence as they will have to watch for the ball to either Owen or Martins or Viduka turning and shooting, or laying the ball back for hopefully a oncoming midfielder to have a shot. Ever the optimist me like.

Taken from the journal..... Bolton Wanderers 1, Newcastle United 3 Aug 13 2007 by Paul Gilder, The Journal AMONG the advertising hoardings that surrounded the Reebok Stadium pitch at the weekend was one promoting the services of a local undertaker and another extolling the virtues of a leading brand of anti-perspirant. Within 27 minutes of emerging from the tunnel to open the 2007-08 Premier League season, Bolton’s players were dead and buried. Newcastle’s had not broken sweat. While a funereal mood prevailed among home supporters whose hopes had expired, those on the home bench could be seen mopping their brows in a furious fashion. The faces were grave, the tension unbearable. As the chaos unfolded around him, a cool, calm and collected Sam Allardyce sat and watched, his satisfaction obvious and his enjoyment ill-disguised. Alongside him, Chris Mort beamed. Elsewhere in the main stand, a fidgeting Phil Gartside could not have looked more uncomfortable. Gartside had not been alone in attempting to denigrate Allardyce’s achievements during his eight-season spell as Bolton boss, nor was the home chairman alone in being forced to eat humble pie. Sammy Lee is a man renowned for his red face. As the humiliation continued, he turned ever more scarlet. Story continues ADVERTISEMENT Allardyce’s first competitive fixture as Newcastle manager could not have gone better, Lee’s first meeting with the man he succeeded this summer could not have gone worse. It was a match that had been billed as Big Sam against Little Sam, yet size did not matter in settling a one-sided contest. What did matter was the tactical nous and managerial experience that Allardyce has got and Lee hasn’t. A superior squad and greater financial backing aided Allardyce’s efforts, while the belligerence and single-mindedness that characterise a colourful coaching career also played significant parts. This is a man accustomed to getting what he wants. Having decided his Reebok return would not end in defeat, he made sure it did not happen. Be it the jeers that greeted him as he alighted the United team coach, the misguided pre-match radio interview in which Gartside poured scorn on his talents, or the boos that rang out each time he acceded to the visiting supporters’ repeated requests to give them a wave, Allardyce maintained a dignified silence and focused his mind on answering his critics in a fitting fashion. “Actions speak louder than words,” he said after the final whistle. “I’ve kept my mouth shut and we’ve come and played them off the park. I’m not interested in getting into a war of words. I’m looking forward, not back, and I’m just trying to improve Newcastle.” This might have been his first Premier League fixture in charge of Newcastle, but the improvements were clear to see. Five times in five seasons, Newcastle have been beaten at Bolton, all results masterminded by Allardyce. This time it was different. With the 52-year-old on their side, the Magpies never looked like losing. For the first time since October 13, 2001, United’s supporters headed home from the Reebok Stadium victorious, their optimism increased and their faith restored. It was as though roles had been reversed. While Bolton’s defending was appalling, Newcastle demonstrated a commitment, desire and determination that has been missing in recent seasons. It was such qualities upon which Allardyce’s success at the Reebok Stadium was built. The cynics deride him as a long-ball merchant, yet this gripping performance exposed the flaws in their argument. Gartside called it ‘boring football’. ‘Winning football’ was Allardyce’s take. Following so much disappointment, winning football is what United’s supporters crave. Newcastle pressed and pressured, hassled and harried. Balls were played into the box and mistakes capitalised upon. Stout and resolute, a mean streak ran through a ruthless performance. Yet there was also outrageous skill, slick passing and breathtaking talent. The 4-3-3 formation that enabled James Milner and Obafemi Martins to buzz around Mark Viduka ensured United were always on the front foot. With Charles N’Zogbia breaking with menace from full-back and Alan Smith and Geremi always looking to support those beyond them, the Magpies could not have been more attack-minded. The system was also adaptable – the tireless Milner always willing to track back, and the industrious Smith always willing to lend his defenders a hand, not that the imperious Steven Taylor or the impressive David Rozehnal needed much help. Nicky Butt, the midfield kingpin, exuded experience and oozed unselfishness. This was a true team performance. It has been a long time coming. The free-kick with which N’Zogbia opened the scoring might have appeared fortunate, but the acrobatic effort with which Martins doubled the lead was not. The Nigerian’s overhead kick demonstrated preposterous skills that a limited number in the Premier League can match. Some have sought to unsettle the striker in recent weeks, but on this evidence, the African is invaluable. Martins added to home woes when Abdoulaye Faye deflected his 25-yard effort past a bemused Jussi Jaaskelainen. Less than half-an-hour had passed, Newcastle led 3-0. The game was over. Lee rallied his troops at the interval, but although Nicolas Anelka reduced the deficit with 40 minutes remaining, the outcome was assured. United were the biggest winners on the season’s opening afternoon, Big Sam the biggest winner of all. Who thinks that Paul Gilder is having a little dig at one Mr Anal. It's about time someone from the Journal/Chronicle had the balls to say something about Anal's drivel.

Also even though Carr hasn't been as bad a usual, I still hope we get a decent right back in before the window closes.

Given Carr Rohenhal Taylor Enrique Geremi Smith Barton Owen Viduka Martins I think maybe that team at home, but your guess is as good as mine for away because I can't see Sam playing that team against the top teams.

If this turns out to be true then although i would be unhappy to see nobby leave, i'd rather have a team full of players who want to play for the club and not some sulky arsed tit just here to pick up his rather large pay packet. I'm sick of seeing certain players in the team who quite obviously couldn't give a shit. It'll make a refreshing change to see players like Barton and Smith out there who'll give everything for as long as they're on the pitch.

If we got rid of Dyer i'd like to see us take a chance on Barnes. A young player with good potential who wouldn't expect to be in the first eleven every week.

Here's a shite translation..... Nolberto Solano is found out: West Ham tries it for the coming season of the Premier League. So far, the club that maintains a litigation with Tévez already began to talk with its pairs of the Newcastle to obtain the aid of the Peruvian. “It is certain, already I know that the West Ham tries to me, but still is nothing no concrete. My representative already told me on the interest, but he is that I have I contract with Newcastle until June of the 2008, and in that case the negotiation would have to be of club to club, I I do not have anything to do. I am very to taste in Newcastle, but the supply is good, then it is necessary to analyze it”, indicated. Newcastle comes to win to the last Sampdoria in a friendly one. Make of that what you will.

When was the last time Oliver wrote a positive article about the Toon? I mean I know everything's not perfect, but it finally seems as though we're going in the right direction for once. And what does the main football writer ( mackems.gif) for our club do? Every time he gets the opportunity, he tries to put a negative spin on things or tries to unsettle one of our players. If that's what he wants to do then he should fuck off to the Northern Echo or some other Makem rag. Honestly, whether there's any truth in this or not, this man just boils my piss. :rant:

The only problem if this is true, is that the club probably won't tell everyone if it's true because if he has to stay then obviously Sam will use him at some point, and there's no way on earth he could play for us again if all this shit is true. He's already disliked by a lot of the crowd now. Imagine what the reation will be like after.

If this is the case (and there's no evidence that it is true... yet) then Dyer had two choices in my opinion: 1. Simply tell both WH and the Toon that he was willing to wave his right to his loyalty bonus (and that's a joke considering he was the one who wanted to move). 2. Put in a transfer request. If Dyer isn't prepared to do either of these then to me, that proves that this has all been about the money and fuck all about family reasons.

"I hear Alan Oliver's hanging around the training ground, looking for some shit to make up." "Smither's, release the hounds."

Luque is a reason he's coming... .... .... Luque seems happier now with Sam in charge. Maybe a happy squad will be a successful squad. (fingers crossed smiley thing)

By the way before anyone say's anything, that's just the midfield and forward lineup. I have deliberately left out the defence and goalkeeper. So there.

With a fully fit squad ( mackems.gif) to chose from i think Sam might go for Geremi Smith Barton Owen Viduka Martins With the likes of Milner, Duff, Emre N'Zogbia and the such coming off the bench to try and change the game. Only thing is with that team we have no real width. Then again, i'm probably talking bollocks and Sam's got a completely different idea in mind.

If this is true i'm 100% behind the club on this. Who the fuck do WHU think they are, just because the FA haven't got the bollocks to do to them what they've done to other (smaller) clubs, they now think they can get away with anything they like. Fuck Dyer... if this is true report them to the FA and let's see them weasel out of this one. There's no way they'll get out of this one with all the press coverage it'll get.

The club should come out and publically state that they won't let anyone talk to Oliver over his shamelessly personal vendetta against Martins. What a nobjockey.

How can someone who's supposed to be chief sports writer or whatever he is, be so out of touch with whats been going on?