bobbydazzla

The thing is about long term attendance is that inevitably, the atmosphere suffers. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up in the stadium. Someone said in another thread about having an ST but not having the same level of enthusiasm for games as in the past. They were just being honest. And I suspect that’s a wider issue. Doesn’t matter if they’re a member or an ST, but people go out of habit or fear of missing out, rather than being excited to be there and using that excitement to fuel the atmosphere. Got no idea how that changes though. Would a spanking new stadium possibly get people excited again ? Short term could it be reconfiguring seating to put like minded people together ? At a very basic level mixing up the pre-match routine so it’s not the same every time ? Felt like DJ Onedek did a good job of this for the semi *Be warned, suggesting pyro will mean ructions*

And this was almost a decade ago now. Yikes.

You forgot the most visible one...

and the L7 corner singing section, as brief as it was

No one in here has said we should add more ST's We're talking about giving members a ladder to climb versus other members

No. Not even sure how you've reached that conclusion. It's a closed shop because no ST's have been sold since summer 2022. There is no way to acquire one. We're talking about giving members a way to climb a ladder of priority versus other members. No one has suggested taking any ST's away

When was the last time there hadn't been a single season ticket available for over 4 seasons ? 30 years ago ?

What's your view on season tickets being a closed shop ? Is it just tough shit, you weren't here with an ST in Oct 2021 so you're not anything off us now ? What message does that send to the latest generation of younger fans who are coming up through the ranks ? It's nearly 5 seasons since Ashley left, the teenagers who are the best age to be NUFC daft are locked out of aways and had a miniscule chance of a cup final ticket

I try very hard not to type anything that could wrongly be interpreted as criticism of someone who has an ST. I have no resentment of people who have ST's. They chose to keep going under Ashley, others didn't. Both sides had their valid reasons and it's all in the past. But I'm annoyingly vocal about wanting to improve the situation members are currently in. And some ST's interpret this is as criticism of them. It absolutely isn't. I just feel strongly that we need a more balanced approach to prioritising the match going fanbase after 5 seasons of new ownership and a closed shop ST situation. At the moment 31,000 people with ST's from pre-2021 get almost all of the recognition from the club. Everyone else is left to feed off scraps, no matter how much or little effort they put into following NUFC. I think the club somehow bringing members closer to ST's (however this can be done) is a good thing. That's just my strong opinion. And I'm not even pissed off I missed out on a Wembley ticket. I was in a huff for about 24 hours when the criteria were announced but then accepted I had virtually no chance and made other plans

Would have been 2006 as we'd just signed Obafemi Martins and the brand spanking new "21 or 28" tune was non-stop on the bus on the way into Brum Paully was being an absolute peeve menace on the journey back (in a good way)

We got the train down the night before that one. Was a mad weekend I can still vividly remember Wraith getting a dig off a QPR fan then tumbling down a few rows of the home stand and plenty of people laughing at him from the away end

I've been on those buses and used those tickets, including a very lairy trip to Villa when @Paully was the ringleader of some peeve related carnage

I know plenty of very vocal away day lads who live outside of the NE, don't have ST's and rarely watched us at home but via the blackmarket network they'd get to loads of aways and had done for years Lads like that are now are absent, unless the original ticket owner wants to risk being busted in a check Was it fair they were getting blackmarket tickets ? Probably not Have they been replaced by people who are just as vocal ? Sounds like they probably haven't

Do Sheffield Steeler's have a loyalty point's scheme for member's ? Asking for a friend

***Spoiler Alert*** Magdad is Michelle Collins' husband

Having now had a couple of hours to properly digest this, can I just say that the thing that annoys me the most and has really pissed me off, is the apostrophe in "work's"

If you need a bag of bugger dust to help you power through today, then Magdad’s got numbers and they’ll drop off

Not worth arguing with an idiot Stiffy, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience But just to avoid any confusion created by that twonk: I’ve been going home and away since I was a teen in 1993 and had a season ticket for many years. Not saying this to demonstrate that I’m “loyalist”, there’s thousands without ST’s who have a similar story to me But apparently, we’re Johnny Come Lately’s who should just pay their £40 and shut the fuck up. Which is nice

TL;DR Cheap cocaine is a hell of a drug

Agree, it’s not anyone’s fault. And as there’s no ST’s available then that’s even more reason for the club to implement solutions that narrow the gulf between those with ST’s and those without

Loyalty points for members, go to a game earn points, less attractive the game more points on offer. More points on your account means higher priority when games like cup finals or even aways get offered to members. And to go on an ST waiting list you need to pass a points threshold ST holders with loads of points still get first dibs and keep their position at top of the tree, but members can start to make their way off the bottom rung by going to games Have a look at Chelsea’s membership scheme, they do this And a directly relevant example of a club not prioritising ST’s over members is Liverpools Wembley allocation. Members and ST’s got equal priority, anyone who had been to 2 x Carabao games was eligible

I was annoyed, but Michelle was furious when I told her She’s the one who needs the formal apology