Mistle17

This.

Lets be honest, the way Man Utd are playing it'd be disgraceful if they didnt have the best away support around...

Agreed.

But surely Kinnear cant stay....surely?!! He's just had a bloody triple bypass on his heart, and he's in his sixties.....he'd be a fool to take the offer. In saying that, though, we'll probably end up with Colin Calderwood instead...

We'll be working on a shoe-string budget with a shit manager. Fantastic.

I've been thinking about this a lot, Dave, and Im very pessimistic about it myself. They're so naive that we're bound to end up in trouble again. I fear that we'll be replacing players like Owen and Viduka with no better than average players, and if we avoid a relegation dogfight then mid-table mediocrity beckons for the next few years. Its a horrible thought but I really can see it happen. The thing I fear most though is having Kinnear appointed full-time. If this is to happen then its clear for all to see what the clubs ambitions are; saving money. There will be plenty of players looking to jump ship in the summer, no doubt. I feel very depressed about our future....

Surely PL TV money, advertising etc. etc. would be better for Ashley if he wanted to make money. Sorry, I meant IF we go down he'll have a cost reducing plan to spend less to get us back up. We'll lose a hell of a lot of money next season should the worst happen.

I've heard this lad is supposed to be canny....?

If we go down I could see the fans (those that will be left) make a real push for gaining control of the club. Yes, it will be very hard but I can see mass rallies, protests, and plans happening.....imo. The players that I think would leave would be: Bassong, Coloccini, Beye, Enrique, Duff, Barton, Nolan, Martins, Owen (leaving anyway), Viduka (same as Owen), Jonas, S.Taylor, Xisco, Smith, Ameobi (because of his insane wages, and Cacapa. The 'maybes' would be: Geremi, Haper and Guthrie. I could see Lovenkrands given a permanent deal (and rightly so, he'd be canny in the Championship), though. So pretty much, as people have said before me, we'll lose almost our whole squad. Take all those away from an already very small squad then we're in trouble....or Ashley is. We'll have players like Lua Lua, Edgar, Carroll, R.Taylor and Krul (please god) still with us but it will be very, very tough. Then we'll have the likes of Kadar, Ranger, Godsmark, Forster and maybe a couple of others being given a sniff of 1st team football. This could be a part of Ashley's plan.....as it would be very cost reducing filling lots of the whole's with young lads already at the club. I would be a wee bit surprised if Harper stayed at NUFC. He might think to himself that he has one last chance to knock on the England door and he wont do that in the Championship.....plus a host of PL clubs will be sniffing around for him on the cheap. Going down would be an utter disaster, imo and it could take a while for the club to recover from it. We can easily have a clear out this summer without getting relegated, anyway.

Its like Luque all over again. For some unknown reason he just isnt played. But in fairness to Luque he was always going to struggle when he ruptured his hamstring in his second match.... Xisco has a good attitude by the looks of it and seems determined to be a hit with us. I really want to see the lad given a proper chance, like. 5 minutes towards the end of a match just isnt good enough.....he's got to get a fair go. Besides he CANT be worse than Shola....just cant. Did anyone ever watch him at Depor? From what I've heard he was decent at best when playing in Spain...

Personally I dont have a problem with it. I think its beneficial for both club and player most of the time and, although we havnt brought in many players on loan in our more recent history, I think its a good way to test the water with a player and let some of the younger players stretch their legs a little. So for me I dont think we should change it, I think the real issues lie within the permanent deals for players...

seems a right c*** does Carroll. Most of us living in newcastle are have surely heard the stories about him and his cousin Whats the story with this, like?

Oh joy, Hull will now be brimming with confidence going into our game with them. Fuck off.

Smith did OK I guess. Stay out of the way most of the time which always helps... I cannot believe Hull have just scored. FUCK SAKE!

Great performance, like. Really good stuff....the lads should be proud and they need to take it into the Hull game. If we have that work rate and movement against Hull we'll murder them. BUT.....I find myself gutted. I think its because A) We handed over the win with such a stupid mistake, and B)....Its Man Utd, I guess.

We'd think the club is in freefall. Well, I would. Still a 7 for me. Tonight changes nothing, we could've got something out of the game if R.Taylor was such a retard, and our performance was very good.

Light years better than Duff. Definitely for me..

Well I cant imagine anyone thought we'd be holding them 1-1 at HT did we? HT couldnt have come sooner though. We were starting to come under serious pressure. I cant see us getting owt from this...

Oh my god we are gonna get fucking raped, tonight.

Very sterile atmosphere tonight Vs mackems.

heza you, or on of the older, more experienced and mature lads from the Ultras should try and go along to those meetings. Its worth a shot, like and it would be good to see what sort of support you'd get from the club and how they'd react by having an "Ultra" group connected to the club. I'd like to see the Ultras succeed and the only way you'll have a chance of doing that is by making the club aware of your aims and intentions. As for the piece itself- well, its an interesting one. You get the feeling that theres a lot of tension between both parties and their both trying to hold back at letting rip at eachother. From Llambias and (mainly) the NUSC theres sly digs through gritted teeth aimed at each other. Worrying, imo, as we're never going to get anywhere if they dont agree on anything. I'm still sort of sitting on the fence in terms of my opinion on the NUSC but their not doing much to help my decision. Fair play to Llambias for showing up, its about fucking time he does but still, good to see the club are coming out of their shell a bit. What Im really angry about is that bollocks comment by Llambias about "top class" managers knocking at his door!!! Fuck off. Fuck off you patronising cunt. Who do you think we are? Fucking mugs? He must've taken a PR class by Freddie Shepherd.... And it looks very bleak as to our summer spending. We'll be spending fuck all and still end up with a tiny squad, which will again leave us in a situation we are in now....which league I dont know. But whatever Llambias says, the club have really fucked up on the finances in terms of transfers. They clearly dont have the slightest notion on how to buy and sell properly.

A lot of people think that if they support Liverpool their not 'gloryhunters', just because Liverpool dont dominate the PL like Man Utd. Bollocks. Most of my mates are Liverpool "fans". Drives me mad, like.

It was mentioned much earlier in the thread. He was on Facebook or something about it. How do you know that? On this facebook, one of his profile pics was a screenshot of the bbc site, when he was using firefox. Can't believe I actually just searched the thread to find that Neither can I but thanks.

It wouldnt surprise me.

Yep, starting a new club seems to be the thing to do nowadays when the going gets tough.