Tiresias

All the hindsight saying spurs should have sold Kane and rebuilt squad probably do ignore that likely all purchases would be hyper inflated and wouldn't have been so easy. Still Spurs are just naff. Lost all their dynamism when Erickson left and in decline since all it takes is for son or kane to be out of form and what is there?

Spurs are lucky the european super league didn't happen they'd be the newcastle of the league. Arsenal too really. Would being a whipping boy of the league really bring in that much extra money?

Especially impressive timewasting from matty longstaff considering he plays for Aberdeen

Looks like just trying to be funny

Proper awful reffing here

Bit harsh on muppets

On Saul, Man U were also in for him at one point? I guess player prefers Chelsea and living in london? As Chelsea are stuffed with high quality defensively minded midfielders (by far best midfield defensively in league) and Man U have absolutely none of even close to his quality and yet he ends up with Chelsea? Madness if Man U just thought Fred and McTominay will do

For everyone (and every pundit) who says it doesn't have to be 'deliberate' here are BOTH parts of teh handball law in relation to red cards on goal line. Here it determines what counts as an offence in relation to a handball. The problem is people think 'deliberate' has to mean the player has a moment to think aha here i move my hand to stop the goal, whereas the example it gives makes it more clear it is meant merely that the player makes a movement with hand that blocks the ball rather than it bouncing directly off. This is ambiguous. However I think they see it as either ambiguous or you end up giving reds for every handball (nonsense imo just make it only pen unless its clearly unsportsmanlike behaviour rather than mere instinctive movement) here is part 2 which I kept seeing quoted by those saying there is no 'deliberate' part and this is in relation to what the sanction should be This part makes no mention of it being deliberate. However what people who only read this part miss is that it is only an 'offence' if it is deliberate, see above.

The trouble is if they get rid of the 'deliberate' bit they will get loads of unfair reds, if they keep it in you have this ambiguity. I think solution is more pen should be fine punishment 90% of the time and the ref needs a higher bar for sending off for cases when it is clearly completely conscious and intentional

I think the deliberately bit gets people. I think the refs interpretation of 'deliberate' is as in the example 'player moves the arm towards the ball' which James does, rather than mind reading the player. It is merely meant to stop when ball just bounches dirrectly off at point blank range. James moved his arm and carried ball out o fgoal with it. It is ambiguous, it is daft to double punish pen is definitely enough of a punishment but strangely both a red card and no red card is in the rules so both sides can argue endlessly cos both interpretations seem fair.

We play such bad football. Considering half the pundit world bitched and moaned about how defensive Rafa played where are they now? Oh wait we can't even actually defend anyway...

It has to be a 'deliberate' handball to avoid reds for obvious bounces off arms. I am kinda alone in thinking he did kinda scoop the ball with teh arm in a forward motion rather than just have it richocet off so maaaaybe makes sense as a red but it is well harsh.

Red was well harsh but chelsea players lost heads, and all this surrounding refs is ridiculous

Ashley doesn't care, probably prefer us to go down than have to deal with another manager. Bruce says thank you sir after Ashley pisses on his face.

Fair enough! oops

DCL has scored two penalties this season. He is a better finisher than Richarlison, whom I do rate mind but really? Of course he's off at first chance mind but probably taking penalty or not.

Bruce will be fucking crowing

Bruce so fucking luck

This is what gets me, we are bad at defending but dont attack. We dont hold on to the ball well but we dont defend deep well.

Can't expect to compete with teams like southampton

Yeah i misread chambers shirt somehow

Honestly think Arsenal should have got Rafa. Absolutely need his clarity in just making them hard to beat first. They have some wonderful exciting players who are going to be ruined by association with this shambles.

I do feel slightly harsh to jump on Arsenal for being outclassed by Chelsea and Man City teams that have diverged a long way ahead of them but then you do look at how much money arsenal have spent, it's astonishing to end up with a squad so thin and unimpressive.

Mari is awful, seemed to be at fault every time they concede