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We have no shape, at the back and part of the reason is that we're expecting both fullbacks to defend and act as wingers. It leaves us so short at the back because our midfielders don't cover them, we're clueless. Yep, two holding players and we still had neither sitting in front. Something that has been said so many times by me and others it's ridiculous. This is purely a poor managers tactical ineptitude at it's finest.. It beggars belief no one in the team knows what they are doing. It baffles me why no one just sits. Anita did it against Villa, and Fulham. And we played better for it. Soon as Tiote comes in we have stopped doing it. I dont understand how Pardew or the players cant see it themselves. Poor management its as simple as that He doesn't have a clue tactically and has no idea how to get the best out of the players he's been given. For the system of buying players we employ Pardew isnt the manager we need.

This post is utter lunacy like. Every time I see him attempt to "keep it tight" from the start of a game, that's when we get f***ed up the arse, like tonight. Shifting Ben Arfa because he's scared of their full back, that's what he thinks "keeping it tight" is, completely f***ing up your own game because of fear. Staggering that you think he has "shown how to construct a back four" - taking one over from another manager that has been playing together for years does not count as "constructing". He has shown only that he's totally incompetent at putting together a new unit. Aye this has me thinking about how Bayern under hitzfeld exploited Barca's weaknesses instead of trying to stop them playing I call that a winners mentality

We have no shape, at the back and part of the reason is that we're expecting both fullbacks to defend and act as wingers. It leaves us so short at the back because our midfielders don't cover them, we're clueless. Yep, two holding players and we still had neither sitting in front. Something that has been said so many times by me and others it's ridiculous. This is purely a poor managers tactical ineptitude at it's finest.. It beggars belief no one in the team knows what they are doing.

Its not just one bad game in the last 6 months sadly. That being said I'm not judging any of our players until we have a proper manager.

Di Canio? Oh wait

Yes we do. By bringing in a manager who actually knows how to fucking manage.

Doesn't he? if he isn't telling Santon what positions he should be taking up and which direction he should be showing his man he's not doing his job. at the end of the day Pardew picks these f***ing players and he coaches them; they we're highly rated before they came here and have gone backwards ever since. the maths is f***ing simple. Aye I understand that, Pardew takes a massive share of the blame. All I'm saying is Santon is a fullback, his job is to stay goal side of his winger and stop the cross coming in. Colo is an experienced international CB and he doesn't bother to look where the forward is standing. Just a couple of examples of awful individual errors. It's different players every week Ian. If it was a one off individual error then you hold your hands up and accept it, but we sit here saying the same things week in and week out. If we can sit here and see it why can't Pardew? How can we expect our players to be accountable when our manager isn't? We often talk about a lack of leadership at the club but this comes from the manager once again, on the playing side the buck stops with him.

Doesn't he? if he isn't telling Santon what positions he should be taking up and which direction he should be showing his man he's not doing his job. at the end of the day Pardew picks these f***ing players and he coaches them; they we're highly rated before they came here and have gone backwards ever since. the maths is f***ing simple. they're not robots they are capable of thinking for themselves and being supposedly top players they should have some vague clue on the bloody basics As i said they managed the basics before coming here. I just don't fall for Pardew's bullshit that's all.

Doesn't he? if he isn't telling Santon what positions he should be taking up and which direction he should be showing his man he's not doing his job. at the end of the day Pardew picks these fucking players and he coaches them; they we're highly rated before they came here and have gone backwards ever since. the maths is fucking simple.

Aye the media always do this for Pardew. We concede poor goals week in week out he always gets a pass. People seem to forget he's the one managing these players week in and week out. Colo is a Argentinian international and Mbiwa won the league with Montpellier and was highly regarded by everyone! Our players are going backwards through poor management and poor coaching it's that simple.

Italian international & French international Vs no mark league 1 manager and coaches no one has ever heard of. hmmm

Good to see Neville and Carra really breakdown what i've been complaining about all night. Our non existent defensive system and them stupid direct balls which are fucking aimless

Not really.... and they wasn't fantastic in the first half either. They looked good because we allowed them to be and they looked bad in the 2nd half because we didn't allow them to play. The same could be said vice versa tbf, but the point is let a passing team play and your asking for trouble put them under pressure and they won't like it. As the old saying goes..... any team can look good if the opposition allows them to be. Mole, we couldn't have gifted you a way back into the game any more - just like us being 3-0 was in no small part due to your total lack of defending. Beren's nailed it perfectly - we took our foot off the gas, ground to a halt, got out the car and went for a walk. It was farcical. I agree you took your foot of the gas but i still think the main reason we got back into the game is we stopped sitting deep and allowing you to come at us in droves. Its clearly not an effective way to play against you or any other decent outfit, i suppose its easy to say we put you under pressure and squeezed the midfield a lot more of course its a combination of all these things. I just don't believe you would have been 3-0 up at half time if we started the game by squeezing the midfield and nullifying the effectiveness of Barry, Barkley etc etc. My concern is we will just go back to sitting deep with zero intensity and i will sighing all over again. Pardew doesn't learn for some reason. One of the best games we've had under him is when we dominated Man U at SJP. We squeezed the midfield pressed as a team and didn't give them any time on the ball but we rarely see it. Sadly no one in the media ever calls football managers to account for bad tactical decisions.

He was ineffective tonight but I didn't think he was garbage as such. Just like last season, he was the only outlet. Moving Remy into the middle put all the pressure back onto Hatem; they doubled-up on him and countered him easily. Just woeful tactics from Pardew, as usual. (Plus Seamus Coleman had an absolutely sensational performance - he was man of the match by a distance, for all Sky's ejaculating over Lukaku.) the excuses people will make for hba a crap game is a crap game, and he had one. And the one before that. It's really myopic to look at individual player performances in isolation from context unless they are outstandingly bad - which he wasn't. The deck was stacked against him from the get go, tonight. If he'd been on top, top form - he might have got better joy out of Coleman, but that doesn't mean the level he was at was 'garbage'. The team's plan was garbage, and he was spearheading the horrendous plan sadly - and is now taking the flak for it. This: He would have faired much better against baines than coleman.

The only reason Everton scored 3 goals in the first half was because we started with the car turned off and couldn't even find the keys. I mean which of their goals wasn't down to a comedy of errors?, every f***ing one was. I agree to some extent, but the difference is that was when the game was still (in theory anyway ) a competitive match and that was our level that we were bringing to the table. I think that first half was more inline with how we usually play in comparison to Everton's second half.

His distribution is just too poor to be playing at this level sadly. Even when he's under no pressure he still lumps it. I know the movement in front of him is terrible but he's like a race horse with blinkers he can knock a simple ball to our full backs. and another indictment on Pardew is how poor our off the ball movement has been under Pardew. 3 years and we are no further forward than the day he took over. Dont get me wrong, he is woeful. But by his standards i thought he did quite well. Hard to call mate. Everton we're relaxing the entire time he was on the pitch.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so f***ing wishy washy, the players don't have a f***ing clue what they are meant to do Agree,it's the total turnaround from what we did so very well two seasons ago that helped us finish 5th.So what's went wrong? I can only assume the players get sick of his training methods. People may disagree with me here but i just don't think they respect him he's too soft on the players for me. Letting Colo fuck off back to Argentina whilst he was out injured, same with Ben arfa who was being treated in France. Some will say this is good man management for me it's giving players a free holiday and will breed resentment from the other members of the team.

His distribution is just too poor to be playing at this level sadly. Even when he's under no pressure he still lumps it. I know the movement in front of him is terrible but he's like a race horse with blinkers he can knock a simple ball to our full backs. and another indictment on Pardew is how poor our off the ball movement has been under Pardew. 3 years and we are no further forward than the day he took over.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so f***ing wishy washy, the players don't have a f***ing clue what they are meant to do It's like we make it up as we go along. It's been said by so many on here but it's true. We lack a pattern, a identity as a team. And after 3 years here Pardew will never find it and should be ashamed he hasn't tbh. And yet some still think he'll turn it around, it's baffling. This you get the feeling over clubs are going places, they have managers with a clear idea of what they want to achieve and how they do it. We have a blagger who just guesses his way through each game.

They did but we pressed them, amazing that a passing team doesn't like being pressed. Sitting back in the first half killed us, letting them play. And Pardew doesn't deserve credit for getting us to do what we should have done from the 1st whistle. Bimpy your spot on. The way we defend makes no sense. We don't press We don't get tight We aren't compact It's so fucking wishy washy, the players don't have a fucking clue what they are meant to do

It's the mentality of the man Ian, He plays our best player out of position to cover off their left back ffs. If someone is negative all of the time it starts to rub off and this is why we've seen every single player we've bought under Pardew go backwards.

Has he not changed the second half round? I forgot he only gets the blame for s***. Never credit for the smallest of positives. We are up the creek without a paddle man. Open your eyes.

1 decent half isn't good enough. Cracks papered over once again! meanwhile we are 16th in the table with some tough fixtures coming up.

What clearly need are more players like Steven 'Old Reliable' Taylor and Shola 'Heart of a Lion' Ameobi. This had me dying off laughter

Exactly we'll still lose and people will praise him