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michael forster @foschops 5h Honestly though do you in your head not your heart actually believe the takeover with the PIF will eventually go through? Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @foschops@milesstarforth and @MouthofTynePod I think it has a decent chance. And while buyer has always displayed confidence, seller now on that train too. 9:39 am · 11 Dec 2020

Kennedy’s answer to Easter question - Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @NUFC_1980_1994 and @NUFC360 As for third one, if it takes that long then so be it, very few people even those close have control over that. Piece essentially about keeping wolf from the door over festive period, which there is concern about, obviously, as a lot of people have a lot at stake in this deal.

Apologies in advance but my I phone updates f***ed my ability to copy tweets. More follow up from Kennedy to this morning’s article. Important to note for those that ridicule buyers confidence, according to Kennedy it’s not just the buyers who are confident. NUFC 1980-1994 @NUFC_1980_1994 2h 1. You say (about delivering) during the piece "we don't know" yet state "takeover turkey is close to being cooked." Can you elaborate? 2. You say Ashley is working hard to get it done but fail to confirm what he's doing. Can you elaborate? 3. Are Easter eggs on standby? Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 2h Been in oven since May 19 for context. There's renewed positivity from both sides. Could come out oven perfect, or burnt to a crisp. I, personally, can't predict which, although I do have my own opinion. MA is the one in driving seat re action, contact w/ PL via legal channels. Dean Dodds @DeanDodds2 · 2h In your opinion liam which way do you think this goes? Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 2h The people who matter are confident, so I am hopeful. Ethan Common @Ethcommon 1h That’s enough for me. I’ve always been confident because the buyers have been confident. Liam Kennedy @LiamJKennedy23 Replying to @Ethcommon @DeanDodds2 and 2 others It's not just the buyers.

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. I agree the arena site would be fantastic for a new stadium, however I think the below development may put pay to this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/homes-built-quayside-west-approved-19316403 still room on the arena site and car park for a super stadium Hope your right I think it would be a great site with close links to city centre, and would actually be quite spectacular with the right design in that location. Potential to be even fucking colder in winter, but I’m sure the Saudi’s will install heated seats to account for that.

I agree it would be nice to see a softening of their resistance to increase confidence levels in some, but in public at least where not going to see it. However, a combination of legal and political pressure behind closed doors will see this get resolved in our favour hopefully.

Maybe it’s because he speaks to the people involved, which would give him a lot more insight than us lot. And to be fair to him he always says hopeful as opposed to confident. So did Caulkin and we all know how that turned out. He'll be hopeful as a supporter but I wouldn't be reading much else into what he says. I’m very hopeful this will get done, but can understand pessimism. I’m all in on this or my days with this club are over. On Kennedy I think he’s genuine and has sources. I also think we’ve got some big hitters on our side and I don’t think they’re going to accept defeat on this.

Maybe it’s because he speaks to the people involved, which would give him a lot more insight than us lot. And to be fair to him he always says hopeful as opposed to confident.

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. I agree the arena site would be fantastic for a new stadium, however I think the below development may put pay to this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/homes-built-quayside-west-approved-19316403

Confidence from all sides. https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/liam-kennedy-newcastle-uniteds-takeover-turkey-almost-cooked-can-steve-bruce-save-mike-ashleys-christmas-3064435

I didn't realise that we could appeal the arbitration decision should it go against us. Not sure why I thought this but I thought the arbitration decision was final. Caulkin always said the legal action was about getting a decision, even if it’s rejected it would then allow them to appeal decision. I think it’s also considered that for any legal case to be successful they would have to show they’ve been through arbitration first.

Actually the most interesting part I thought was in relation to NCSL. Kennedy implied that over next few weeks will decide whether they proceed with legal action or not. Now being a glass half full kinda guy, my take is the arbitration is due to be heard shortly. I think De Marco’s tweet regarding a heavy 3 weeks, and Kennedy’s article yesterday where he basically said this is the quiet before storm implies this heavily. Despite the bullish nature of NCSL I think they’ve cooled their jets at least publicly re court action. I’m hoping this is due to confidence in the clubs case now being the quickest route via arbitration.

Kennedy and Starforth talking about the takeover from 13 minutes onwards.

I bet you’ve never been more jealous of the big man either.

This is the thing though, I don't think it's a battle they can't win. "Can't" is a massive word in this context, and one that absolutely nobody can use in this situation whilst still maintaining any credibility whatsoever. Of course they can win a legal battle. They might or they might not, but they most assuredly can. But on what basis can they win? The only plausible way is if the buyers don't meet the current rules that the PL set in the requirements. This has already been said that they have. The PL definitely can't pick and choose who buys clubs and who doesn't, as long as everything was done that was asked, there really isn't much they can do imo. Exactly and that’s where the anti competition rules will come to bite them on the arse hopefully. At face value it appears the PL have breached confidentiality rules, have allowed outside interference and not followed their own rule book. If national journalists like Henry Winter were aware of which clubs were lobbying against it, you can bet your life there’s evidence. As HTT has alluded to we’ll be under new ownership by the last Friday in January at 3pm.

Harsh they’re doing some great work here.

No room for takeover fatigue you fucking lightweights it’s there to be won ! dave mcp @davemcp 6h Said it before and I’ll say it again. If #NUFC fans want this takeover then we need to expose the corruption at #EPL by pressuring our MPs to use influence and get transparent disclosure of what both govt and EPL are hiding; @NCSL1892 are on it but need our help! ZebraZebraZebra Quote Tweet Rob Gilbert-Ovens @Thegeordiefaith · 8h Said it before and I'll say it again. Takeover goes through and goes through very soon. Newcastle Consortium Supporters @NCSL1892 Replying to @davemcp Too true and well said! The NCSL, every fan group and every fan in the country needs to stand up and lock arms and fight the way Amanda Staveley asked us to, in order that the legal teams can drag this over the line! It’s there to be won. Make it public and the evidence wins!

Not strictly takeover related but a nice article in the Arab news about us. Certainly think this film will portray us in a good way to our potential new fan base in the kingdom. https://www.arabnews.com/node/1774671

Thought I’d keep this one in here, if only for the boxing analogy it’s worth a read. Ryan E Maine @RyanMaine_ 19 Nov 10-8 is locked on. 12th will be exciting. Jonathan esland @jonathanesland · 29 Nov So round 12 is upon us. History suggests don't expect anything more than a good fight as it's still not clear if the fighters will raise their gloves to signal last round. If we can get one clear winner it will be nice to draw a line under this boxing match one way or the other. Marc Jones @Marc_1892_ · 29 Nov My concern is that this could be an unlimited-rounds bout and someone in the black & white corner might just throw in the towel before long, frustrated by the opponent holding and the absence of an adequate referee. Hope not. Jonathan esland @jonathanesland · 7 Dec when is that damn bell going to ring Bellhop bellThinking face Ryan E Maine @RyanMaine_ · 8 Dec From what I've seen the Purple corner has started the 12th with a few good jabs, despite the earlier knockdowns, the black and white corner has a devastating uppercut but finding the range and delivering the KO blow is difficult, as the purple corner keeps on clinching. Marc Jones @Marc_1892_ 8 Dec Well, this doesn't sound overly positive Neutral face Ryan E Maine @RyanMaine_ Replying to @Marc_1892_ and @jonathanesland It's better than it sounds, it can't all be smooth sailing unfortunately, but keep in mind if a fight ends without a KO it goes to the judges. Don't expect that to happen, expect to hear an update in next couple of weeks, which should provide a more indicative tone.

Yeah you may be right and the cost of the project put them off in the end. Though I think the stadium expansion cost was around 50 million, and the cost of the mackems new stadium was around 30 million around the same time or thereabouts. I certainly think our stadium would have cost more than the stadium of shite, but it certainly would have been a lot less than what a new stadium seems to cost these days.

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion. There's no reason why they couldn't have pressed ahead with both the appeal and an application for the expansion of St James' Park at the same time. Planning Public Inquires aren't generally particularly lengthy or expensive in the grand scheme of things (unless it's something like Heathrow terminal 5). Generally they last a week or two and having thousands of objections is nothing unusual. That's assuming it would've definitively been refused, in my experience you can never know 100% what is going to happen at a council committee meeting. The fact that it was withdrawn suggests to me that either they weren't fully committed to it in the first place or that there was a fundamental issue that they were advised would make it unlikely to have been successful at appeal. That wouldn't be down to public objections. I think the friends of Leazes Park had the likes of English Heritage involved, it would definitely have gone to government for a full public enquiry. I just think it boiled down to economics in the end and they wanted the extra capacity in the quickest time frame possible. Certainly would have been interesting had it been built, though like most new stadia built around that time it might now have looked dated in comparison to Spurs etc now.

What he’s basically said is we will hopefully have an idea of where this is heading in next 2 weeks. He previously said timescale was important to keep PIF at table, but i think he’s changed tact on that and indicated they are happy to wait for now. He also said that there have been things that have happened in last 2 weeks which can be viewed as positive developments. He was certainly upbeat tonight regarding this going our way in the end.

Hall and Shepherd seen the pound signs and knew all the objections were going to lead to a lengthy public enquiry. He went for the quickest option and not the best in the long term in my opinion.

Steve Wraith’s he has Liam Kennedy on every Tuesday. Always worth a listen for the latest takeover craic.

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. This is eaxactly what the 1997 proposals were. I wrote about all this back in 2010 . . . https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/newcastle-and-the-north-east-as-it-might-have-been.1009531/post-53090947 How much improved is that artists impression of Leazes Terrace. What a shame that certain people within the city couldn’t see past the end of their own nose. In reality their 36 thousand petition was a massive minority, there was even rumours at the time they collected signatures at joker park on match days. When our takeover happens I would love PIF to revisit this and with their backing it could be even greater than Hall and Shepherd’s vision.

Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city.