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Today we appointed a man that talked about this club beign grand and deserving of success. He talked about his ambition to do his best to achieve this. The club have come out and followed suit with this idea.

 

We are yonks away from thi point last season already! Pardew had everyone convinced we ought to be grateful to be in the league. Our players weren't good enough. Europe was a pain. The cups were a hinderance. Man, fuck him and his crew. And I am glad he has duly fucked off to spout his inordinate shit somewhere else.

 

For now I am glad, because I cannot forget just how angry I was when Pardew and his band of buffoons were here.

 

Let's see what happens. We had better start getting in players quick time.

 

Yep. As underwhelming as this appointment seems, the recent moves are like a breath of fresh air compared to the horrific years under Pardew which feel like being in an abusive relationship.

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Yeah because there are already people "disgusted" by what he said in his first interview after being given a great opportunity. Like Ian said, he's hardly going to get the job and go "yeah f*** Ashley, amirite? f***ing mug!" It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

 

It's the most uninspiring choice after what seemed like a few more exciting options, but it's better than where we were at this time last year. We need to judge him on who he brings in and how he performs next season, not judge him on his first interview to the club newspaper.

 

Again, were his only options to arse lick Ashley or to say "yeah f*** Ashley, amirite? f***ing mug!"?

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Today we appointed a man that talked about this club beign grand and deserving of success. He talked about his ambition to do his best to achieve this. The club have come out and followed suit with this idea.

 

We are yonks away from thi point last season already! Pardew had everyone convinced we ought to be grateful to be in the league. Our players weren't good enough. Europe was a pain. The cups were a hinderance. Man, fuck him and his crew. And I am glad he has duly fucked off to spout his inordinate shit somewhere else.

 

For now I am glad, because I cannot forget just how angry I was when Pardew and his band of buffoons were here.

 

Let's see what happens. We had better start getting in players quick time.

 

Yep. As underwhelming as this appointment seems, the recent moves are like a breath of fresh air compared to the horrific years under Pardew which feel like being in an abusive relationship.

 

Agreed. We'll have to see what else they actually do, but even saying those things is progress.

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The fact we signed Steve McClaren to me shows we're not willing to progress at all, fuck the cunts. We've had periods of "have they changed?" before and the answer has always been "no, he's actually gotten loads worse."

 

I cannot be arsed to fall for it again.

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Yeah because there are already people "disgusted" by what he said in his first interview after being given a great opportunity. Like Ian said, he's hardly going to get the job and go "yeah f*** Ashley, amirite? f***ing mug!" It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

 

It's the most uninspiring choice after what seemed like a few more exciting options, but it's better than where we were at this time last year. We need to judge him on who he brings in and how he performs next season, not judge him on his first interview to the club newspaper.

 

Again, were his only options to arse lick Ashley or to say "yeah f*** Ashley, amirite? f***ing mug!"?

 

So can we just confirm Mike, do you like McClaren because I hate all this sitting on the fence?

 

Sometime tell us how you really feel.

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Probably, but I'm not going start hammering the bloke after one interview. Once he says 'that was for mike' then maybe.

 

I didn't want to hammer him, he set himself up as an arse licker and I'll give him stick for it.  I really hope that he does well here but can't see it happening.

 

Well, like the majority of them he'll be judged on results. Let's see how he does  :thup:

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I'm fairly happy about this, particularly since he's bringing in his own staff. I guess I'm slightly biased since my mate supports Derby and always rated the way he had Derby playing. The board changes are interesting, and hopefully a positive since there will be people that actually know something about football up there, but we shall see. Also interesting that they communicated it.

 

Whilst I'm satisfied with the appointment, as others have said, it won't mean anything if he receives the same level of backing/ambition shown previously; we'll know whether Ashley's words had any merit before a ball is kicked in August.

 

 

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Gut instinct tells me this one isn't going to work out, just a hunch and I sincerely hope McClaren makes the club a success, but I've got my doubts. That said, loads of things needed to happen this summer. Binning Carver - check. Hiring a manager who at least has a bit of a track record/isn't a complete cunt - check. Letting McClaren bring some of his own guys in - check. I never wanted McClaren but it's a decent appointment, he's a good coach by all accounts and in the grand scheme of things we could have been lumbered with a shite sight worse, this doesn't mean we couldn't have done much better either (I wanted Garde who would have signed apparently).

 

He's got the job and I don't detest the fuck out of him. I'm not thrilled, I'm not overjoyed and I'm not enthused by McClaren but I'll wait and see how it pans out. Said earlier, I'm sick of hating every aspect of the club, I'm looking for positives and I want it to work but I've got my doubts.

 

I'll give it 18 months. :neutral:

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"wow all of these players we've signed this january look mint, hopefully this is a sign of change!"

 

"oh god we're getting beat 6-0, oh god we're getting beat 3-0 off the mackems, oh god we're getting relegated"

 

"why aren't you sacking pardew?"

 

"please"

 

"thank god... maybe we can get remi garde!"

 

"why have you given the job to john carver? oh god we're going to get relegated..."

 

And so on. We're going to be absolutely sick of our lives within a year.

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So far we've done all of the right things since the season ended, but the things we've done so far haven't required sticking hands too deeply into pockets, so there's a long way to go.

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Gut instinct tells me this one isn't going to work out, just a hunch and I sincerely hope McClaren makes the club a success, but I've got my doubts. That said, loads of things needed to happen this summer. Binning Carver - check. Hiring a manager who at least has a bit of a track record/isn't a complete cunt - check. Letting McClaren bring some of his own guys in - check. I never wanted McClaren but it's a decent appointment, he's a good coach by all accounts and in the grand scheme of things we could have been lumbered with a shite sight worse, this doesn't mean we couldn't have done much better either (I wanted Garde who would have signed apparently).

 

He's got the job and I don't detest the fuck out of him. I'm not thrilled, I'm not overjoyed and I'm not enthused by McClaren but I'll wait and see how it pans out. Said earlier, I'm sick of hating every aspect of the club, I'm looking for positives and I want it to work but I've got my doubts.

 

I'll give it 18 months. :neutral:

 

:thup: Not being fooled into renewing that season ticket just yet but trying to find the positives. Genuinely think they're going to be bullied into giving the cups a go this year at least.

 

Will obviously be depressed as fuck come January.

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If he gives the captaincy to someone else he'll automatically go up in my book. Especially if Coloccini stays

 

Go out and pay £10-12m on Shawcross, make him captain. Massive statement of intent. Think he's also the type of defender that would make Coloccini look decent for another year as well.

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This is Ashley's Shepherd and Big Sam moment. A realisation that things have to change, that the past cannot continue. But unlike with FS, Ashley has no ambition for NUFC outside of how he wants the club to operate. The clash of interests if you like will meet head on at some point and there is only ever going to be one winner.

 

I will go on record here and now and state that McClaren will resign within the next 2 years. He has bought into this so-called new vision and new NUFC, as have lots of fans it sadly seems, but Ashley only cares about two things - SD and the huge revenues from TV that enables him to run NUFC without having to put his own money into things and the guaranteed huge exposure for SD through the millions watching.

 

Talk of the top 8 and cups and punching above our weight financially are soundbites penned by Kieth Bishop and aimed at the sad sacks who want to believe in that, which by the way is deeply sad given finishing 5th under Sir Bobby was once regarded as not good enough.

 

Support McClaren and this 'new' NUFC and all you are doing us deluding yourself further. Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss?

 

I won't be fooled again! Never!

 

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So far we've done all of the right things since the season ended, but the things we've done so far haven't required sticking hands too deeply into pockets, so there's a long way to go.

 

Appointing on merit would have made the bit in bold true but we haven't appointed a manager who was sacked by Derby on merit.  And for the doubters, most people class appointing on merit as appointing the best person available, if de Boer and Garde were interested then we've failed on that score.

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If he gives the captaincy to someone else he'll automatically go up in my book. Especially if Coloccini stays

 

Go out and pay £10-12m on Shawcross, make him captain. Massive statement of intent. Think he's also the type of defender that would make Coloccini look decent for another year as well.

 

Would take more than that. Kaboul I'd available apparently.

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This is Ashley's Shepherd and Big Sam moment. A realisation that things have to change, that the past cannot continue. But unlike with FS, Ashley has no ambition for NUFC outside of how he wants the club to operate. The clash of interests if you like will meet head on at some point and there is only ever going to be one winner.

 

I will go on record here and now and state that McClaren will resign within the next 2 years. He has bought into this so-called new vision and new NUFC, as have lots of fans it sadly seems, but Ashley only cares about two things - SD and the huge revenues from TV that enables him to run NUFC without having to put his own money into things and the guaranteed huge exposure for SD through the millions watching.

 

Talk of the top 8 and cups and punching above our weight financially are soundbites penned by Kieth Bishop and aimed at the sad sacks who want to believe in that, which by the way is deeply sad given finishing 5th under Sir Bobby was once regarded as not good enough.

 

Support McClaren and this 'new' NUFC and all you are doing us deluding yourself further. Meet the new boss.... same as the old boss?

 

I won't be fooled again! Never!

 

:clap:

 

:thup:

 

Totally on board with your sentiment, and we need to continue the pressure on Ashley and his cronies.

 

However, I'm hoping to at least enjoy watching our team under someone who's probably his best appointment in terms of managerial career. And hopefully he's a man of character and walks like Keegan and Gullit when things go pear-shaped.

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If he gives the captaincy to someone else he'll automatically go up in my book. Especially if Coloccini stays

 

Go out and pay £10-12m on Shawcross, make him captain. Massive statement of intent. Think he's also the type of defender that would make Coloccini look decent for another year as well.

 

Not sure Stoke would sell their captain who has 3 years left on his contract to a team who finished below them for £10m, but I get where you're coming from :lol:

 

Think people are going to end the summer disappointed whatever we do in the market, because we need so fucking much.  Could do with a RB, 2 CB's, RM, CM, and arguably 2 strikers. That's without selling anyone, too

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Completely agree, McClaren won't achieve anything and will be forced out if he wants to. I am willing to entertain the possiblity in the short term he may (being the operative word) get us playing nicer football, so there's at least that to look forward to.

 

I maintain that going to the games is counterproductive and we will achieve nothing, and will continue to have to suffer indignity after indignity until Ashley is gone.

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