Hanshithispantz Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Fucking ambition man We're essentially over the moon that we're now allowed to boil our rice before we eat it. Thank you Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Allowed to win cups = ambition Love how it's always the sensible ones on that show that gets shot down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm happy enough with this appointment, he supposedly plays decent football, and everything he's said has been positive. Everything that has came out of the club since the end of the season has been somewhat positive, and it makes a change. Only time will tell if they stick by their words, It may not happen, as has been the case in the past. I've been as negative about the regime as anyone, but I just don't want to be pessimistic about the club any more,I want to look forward to games again, and not dread them, I want to look at the bright side for a change, i'm willing to give them the summer and start of next season to see what the club and McClaren implement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I think everybody was convinced Sounds like horrible semi classic Carver quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02tdgn5 'You cannot accuse Newcastle now of not having any ambition' Imagine being that f***ing simple man. Some people rave on about him winning the League Cup and the League in Holland as if he's the 2nd coming. Most people see Dalglish and Gullitt as being shite while here, I think both would have lifted trophies if they'd faced Bolton in the finals. Didn't he take Twente from 4th to 2nd then 2nd to first? It's not as if he'd built a team, he took over a team which were near the top of a weak league anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Not a bad interview but the top 8 target is unnecessary IMO. It's like saying we want to finish in the top 10 but hopefully just miss out on Europe. Either aim for top 6 or keep quiet about targets if they are going to be as feeble as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02tdgn5 'You cannot accuse Newcastle now of not having any ambition' Imagine being that f***ing simple man. Some people rave on about him winning the League Cup and the League in Holland as if he's the 2nd coming. Most people see Dalglish and Gullitt as being s**** while here, I think both would have lifted trophies if they'd faced Bolton in the finals. Didn't he take Twente from 4th to 2nd then 2nd to first? It's not as if he'd built a team, he took over a team which were near the top of a weak league anyway. I'm guessing that's the equivalent though of taking a club like Hearts and breaking up the Old Firm (when both were there at the top), then winning it a year later. Which is a huge achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm still struggling to understand why De Boer under the same administration would equal game changing, fighting against the regime style change yet McClaren equals automatic Pardew clone. Any manager willing to work under the constraints of the club is surely a total stooge and therefore it would make no difference whether it was Jurgen Klopp or Steve Kean if that is your stance? FWIW, I think it'll end in tears (or massive shrugs) but I won't condemn a man for getting into bed with this club any more than I would condemn a player for signing for us or someone who wasn't McClaren taking the position. No one has won me round with this announcement and it hasn't changed my thirst for change when it comes to our owner but I don't believe we'll see any benefit instantly writing people off just because they are willing to be associated with the club. I think people can still be here and still have a bit of professional pride and a bit of fight in them regardless of the owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What does "give him a chance" mean really? I doubt many people will bring their Sack McClaren bedsheets to the first home game of the season, or cancel their season ticket exclusively on the back of this appointment. Of course he will get a chance to prove if he can make things work and he will be judged on performances and results, just like any other football manager. However, giving him a chance shouldn't mean that he is beyond valid criticism for me. I'm beyond giving Mike Ashley a chance at this stage, which makes it that much harder to be truly enthusiastic about anyone who associates himself with them and sings from the same hymn sheet, but as most people I am willing to see how things pan out before getting the proverbial knives out whilst reserving the right to call it as I see it, when I see it. That's the maximum I can muster I'm afraid for a manager who in reality shouldn't be anywhere near a club aiming for "top 8 in the Premier League" at this stage of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I admit my expectations have been well and truly lowered by this regime. I no longer really expect to challenge for silverware but after the last 5 years just seeing some coherent and decent football would be great for me. I'm actually looking forward to the new season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm guessing that's the equivalent though of taking a club like Hearts and breaking up the Old Firm (when both were there at the top), then winning it a year later. Which is a huge achievement. Alkmaar won it the year before Twente, he didn't break anything up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 What does "give him a chance" mean really? I doubt many people will bring their Sack McClaren bedsheets to the first home game of the season, or cancel their season ticket exclusively on the back of this appointment. Of course he will get a chance to prove if he can make things work and he will be judged on performances and results, just like any other football manager. However, giving him a chance shouldn't mean that he is beyond valid criticism for me. I'm beyond giving Mike Ashley a chance at this stage, which makes it that much harder to be truly enthusiastic about anyone who associates himself with them and sings from the same hymn sheet, but as most people I am willing to see how things pan out before getting the proverbial knives out whilst reserving the right to call it as I see it, when I see it. That's the maximum I can muster I'm afraid for a manager who in reality shouldn't be anywhere near a club aiming for "top 8 in the Premier League" at this stage of his career. Give him a chance means forget about his past, pretend it didn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm cautiously optimistic. However, my standards have been lowered by Pardew (and Ashley). I look forward to a side that passes the ball and actually tries at set pieces. As well as a host of other upsides. The downside is that the club is a ticking time bomb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'll judge him on what he gets out of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/pardew-cup-is-our-target-this-season-2343203.html August 2011, positivity fans. It's the same fucking shit again. He's trying to keep the gravy train moving another few years, let's force him out instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm cautiously optimistic. However, my standards have been lowered by Pardew (and Ashley). I look forward to a side that passes the ball and actually tries at set pieces. As well as a host of other upsides. The downside is that the club is a ticking time bomb. I'm not optimistic but do hope he does well, we all win if he does. I have low expectations of him and don't think his appointment signals a change but actions are all that matters anyway. The football has to get better, it simply has to but once that wears off I think he'll be fairly mundane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/pardew-cup-is-our-target-this-season-2343203.html August 2011, positivity fans. It's the same f***ing s*** again. He's trying to keep the gravy train moving another few years, let's force him out instead. I don't think we'll actively avoid doing well in the cups so that has to be progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/pardew-cup-is-our-target-this-season-2343203.html August 2011, positivity fans. It's the same fucking shit again. He's trying to keep the gravy train moving another few years, let's force him out instead. Smoke and mirrors, we've just hired a manager who was sacked by a championship side 2 weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If anything, I hope the confirmation of this appointment will put an end to my weekly dreams where I encounter Pardew in public - but bottle giving him a load of shit. Ronaldo beats him to an inch of his life then wakes up. Poor form, Yorkie. What was your Pardew dream again? I remember cracking the fuck up. Had a dream last night I was looking after Mike Willamson's dog, the dog had a tattoo. That is all. I had a dream/nightmare last night that I was managing a kids' football team and Alan Pardew was managing the opposition. We just had markers for goalposts and their goalkeeper kept on moving the markers so their goal was smaller and therefore it'd be more difficult to score, I confronted Pardew and he said "I don't care mate, the press aren't going to report this, it's a bladdy kids' game" and I went "Well that's just you all over, isn't it, you cunt". He just smiled. He was a right prick like, was fuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 That's mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/pardew-cup-is-our-target-this-season-2343203.html August 2011, positivity fans. It's the same f***ing s*** again. He's trying to keep the gravy train moving another few years, let's force him out instead. Smoke and mirrors, we've just hired a manager who was sacked by a championship side 2 weeks ago The reaction to this has been fascinating from a psychological perspective. Just goes to show the massive damage the four years of Pardew (and Carver) has done to the self respect of our fan base. Have to hand it to Ashley in a way, how he is slowly but surely changing the entire fabric of our club, including its fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Gets the eight year deal and a million quid bonus if we win a cup according to tomorrow's rags. So the pressure's definitely on him to go out in the first round of each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deuce Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If anything, I hope the confirmation of this appointment will put an end to my weekly dreams where I encounter Pardew in public - but bottle giving him a load of shit. Ronaldo beats him to an inch of his life then wakes up. Poor form, Yorkie. What was your Pardew dream again? I remember cracking the fuck up. Had a dream last night I was looking after Mike Willamson's dog, the dog had a tattoo. That is all. I had a dream/nightmare last night that I was managing a kids' football team and Alan Pardew was managing the opposition. We just had markers for goalposts and their goalkeeper kept on moving the markers so their goal was smaller and therefore it'd be more difficult to score, I confronted Pardew and he said "I don't care mate, the press aren't going to report this, it's a bladdy kids' game" and I went "Well that's just you all over, isn't it, you cunt". He just smiled. He was a right prick like, was fuming. Howling then and now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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