Unbelievable Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ashley has transformed us into Sunderland Mk II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Waiting for Moyes to get sacked. They finally won last night and even then I'm not even sure he'd be able to whip these lads in to shape tbh. Yes, he's better than McClaren but given the tools he has. --- The most damning thing for me is how quickly the new players have seemingly faded in to the mean at the club. They should still be busting a gut looking to prove themselves to the fans and the manager and they're seemingly doing anything but. Is the club really that rotten and apathetic that it infects that quickly? Seems so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Makes me cringe to read some of the stuff knocking around from our fans. "We needed to buy Position X, Y and Z" "4-2-3-1?!?" "Two strikers at home, Steve!" The problems at NUFC can't be put right by buying a few players or changing formation. I wanted McClaren less than anyone but him walking/getting the bullet isn't going to change things at this point. The whole thing is completely fucked. Aye I sometimes feel that a lot of our fans simply just don't get it. I spent a night with the Aussie Mags crew in Melbourne when we beat Chelsea 2-1 last season. It was a weird night for me. They were going absolutely barmy whilst I was basically forcing a smile. Feels proper cunty to say because they're clearly passionate about the Toon and, being on the other side of the planet, were understandably loving the fact we'd won a big game. But it meant nothing. Pardew lived on. Really don't think a lot of people see the bigger picture half the time and their 'hatred' of Ashley is just because he's dead tight. Not because he's an evil cunt who's ripped the soul from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He talks a right load of shite like. Proper seagulls following the trawler stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 No idea where we go next. Totally broken as a club and like many others don't think it's just one thing. It's a hurricane of shit, part coaching, part management, part shit players and a total lack of desire. There is no heart in this club and the football is completely abysmal. Players that seriously cant string passes together at this level or even have a meaningful shot at goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think the coaching is probably alright, but he needs to understand quickly that has to go out the window for now. We need to play hyper percentage and maybe even go long to two strikers...We aren't going to win any games not creating chances. Never thought the day would come that I'd advocate direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm convinced a Chelsea stuffing will see him walk We could out Mackem the Mackems and get a Derby new manager bounce for once! It would take us 3 months to identify the next choice though I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think the coaching is probably alright, but he needs to understand quickly that has to go out the window for now. We need to play hyper percentage and maybe even go long to two strikers...We aren't going to win any games not creating chances. Never thought the day would come that I'd advocate direct. I don't know how but that post has put the possibility of Allerdyce showing up again if Ashley's desperate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think the coaching is probably alright, but he needs to understand quickly that has to go out the window for now. We need to play hyper percentage and maybe even go long to two strikers...We aren't going to win any games not creating chances. Never thought the day would come that I'd advocate direct. Could be idea when Mitrovic gets back, won't happen like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Direct football can still be attacking, it's just that we had Pardew's negative direct football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 For some reason I keep thinking back to that Cathro interview where he said he see's his job as working as hard as he can every minute of the day to get success, or whatever it was. There's a lad who's career ended early and he's worked his fucking bollocks off to be a coach. Wonder what he's thinking watching our collection of millionaires run about not giving two fucks for 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 He's never managed to turn things around once they've started going tits up. Forest being a classic example. Wanted him to really give it a go, but in all honesty the squad we've got just don't arent good enough. We've no decent centre half, no wingers, one injury away from having no decent full backs and to top it off, we've no fucker who looks like scoring over 10 goals a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Give the c*** a chance to turn it around ffs. Why? What do you see changing? There really isn't an alternative to be frank. Needs to be an alternative and pretty damn quick as the club is going down quicker than the Titanic - honestly find it staggering that people are still saying give him a chance "Still" He's been here two minutes. Sheep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Did he say yesterday that '4 or 5' players said they wanted to play the game yesterday and didn't need a rest? Surely all f***ing 14 of them from Saturday should be chomping at the bit to rectify the situation we're in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 How many of our players do I actually like? So those I don't think are either total cunts or just completely spineless. Ayoze, Krul, Janmaat and perhaps Dummett or Colback? 4/5 players out of a whole squad is gash, no wonder we're so shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 How many of our players do I actually like? So those I don't think are either total cunts or just completely spineless. Ayoze, Krul, Janmaat and perhaps Dummett or Colback? 4/5 players out of a whole squad is gash, no wonder we're so shite. I only like Ayoze, Aarons and Mitrovic. Oh, and Thauvin's girlfriend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like Wijnaldum, Perez, Mitrovic, Mbemba, Janmaat, de Jong and Krul. They seem like good, well-intentioned people and genuinely talented footballers. The rest can go and fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I like Wijnaldum, Perez, Mitrovic, Mbemba, Janmaat, de Jong and Krul. They seem like good, well-intentioned people and genuinely talented footballers. The rest can go and fuck off. Why Mitrovic and De Jong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 We need a massive name manager. One with an ego and harshness that matches their ability to drill these players to the performances we need. Sounds like you're saying we need our own Putin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm really trying to extend him a chance still but all the evidence so far is screaming that this bunch of fucking gutless arseholes and McClaren's man-management style is a complete and utter wrong fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 We need a massive name manager. One with an ego and harshness that matches their ability to drill these players to the performances we need. Sounds like you're saying we need our own Putin. Honestly right. The only saving this club is a manager who's world class with Ashley at the helm. We could do a Remi Garde under a normal owner and build a sustained growth and recruitment model, at this point the only thing that would work is a world class manager. Fucking hell its so grim knowing that will never happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm really trying to extend him a chance still but all the evidence so far is screaming that this bunch of fucking gutless arseholes and McClaren's man-management style is a complete and utter wrong fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Watching us under McLaren so bad, it's like the players aren't given 100% because they have another game to play later in the day and Newcastle is just a hindrance that gets in the way of their real gig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 We had to clear the decks in the summer of all the dead wood and did fuck all. We need strong leadership on and off the pitch and we have neither, we are a complete rudderless ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Listened to his post match interview. Fair play to interviewer pushing about the squad harmony. I think McClaren is too soft and too nice. He also sounds genuinely bamboozled, like he has never led a bunch of players that dont give a fuck and don't listen. He won't be able to fix this at all, sadly. I hate Van Gaal but I wish we could stick him in charge to see how these players would respond to a rocket up their arses. What gets me is their arrogance, so many of them see this club as a piece of shit and only a place to catch the eye of a bigger club while picking up more cash than where they come from. Ashley has driven that. Also enough of signing players that come here as a stepping stone. I'd rather have a team of top championship players giving 110% than a team of Chams League wannabes giving 30%. If players don't want to be here, fuck them. Teams are leapfrogging us with shitter players because they have a will to win miles ahead of ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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