Steve McClaren

[Fatwax]

I'd swap him with Howe in a heartbeat.

 

Neither here not there that. You'd swap mcclaren for the best young English manager around? Well I'm staggered.

 

 

 

We must have the only managerial headhunter in the game who doesn't watch football then.

 

Eh? Give over man.

 

Howe would want his head testing coming anywhere near us, and they know it.

 

well, aye, but the opportunity to manage literally one of the biggest clubs in europe might appeal eh?  he wouldn't be the first

 

 

plus we must pay better than bournemouth

 

Have you been in a coma? As a club we're spent, thanks to Ashley.

 

financially we're still top 20 and i'm sure stature-wise have a big pull

 

But ignoring some arbitrary list about money, the fact is that we don't pay big wages, actively avoid progression in cup competitions, rarely qualify for European qualifications and battle towards the bottom of the table more regularly than we do the top.. or even the middle.

 

I get what you're saying, yeah Newcastle may still have some pulling power because of the name, the history etc., but to say we're 'literally one of the biggest clubs in Europe' is so far off the mark. It pains me to say it, but we're a shadow of what we were. Even our stadium is an eyesore now-a-days.

 

wasn't the point about eddie f***ing howe?

 

i thought it was, not jurgen klopp....if it was klopp then ok but i thought it was howe

 

I didn't mention Klopp once. Infact I didn't mention Howe once, I just pointed out that your statement of us being one of the biggest clubs in Europe was bollocks. Apologies if you failed to follow this.

 

In terms of Howe, he's been with Bournemouth for two different spells and taken them from League 2 to the Premiership. If he was to leave the club I doubt it'd be for a team that doesn't show ambition, infact he'd probably see Newcastle as a sideways step given how restricted he'd be by the clueless f***ers in charge. And even if he was interested to the point of having sit-down talks with the club, 5 minutes in a room with Dizzy the Egg will be enough to have him on the first train back to the south coast.

 

I just mentioned Klopp as the opposite of Howe.  Whatever you may think we're still a big draw, that was the point.  If you were offered the chance to leave say Brighton and manage us would you do it?  Of course you would.

 

Fair enough. 

 

There is definitely a difference in being the manager of a team that has been in the championship for a number of years and being the manager of a team that you have taken from the very bottom of the football league to the main stage of English football. Hand on heart I would probably want to stick it out with the club that I've essentially built from the bottom. At least for a little while.

[mrmojorisin75]

I'd swap him with Howe in a heartbeat.

 

Neither here not there that. You'd swap mcclaren for the best young English manager around? Well I'm staggered.

 

 

 

We must have the only managerial headhunter in the game who doesn't watch football then.

 

Eh? Give over man.

 

Howe would want his head testing coming anywhere near us, and they know it.

 

well, aye, but the opportunity to manage literally one of the biggest clubs in europe might appeal eh?  he wouldn't be the first

 

 

plus we must pay better than bournemouth

 

Have you been in a coma? As a club we're spent, thanks to Ashley.

 

financially we're still top 20 and i'm sure stature-wise have a big pull

 

But ignoring some arbitrary list about money, the fact is that we don't pay big wages, actively avoid progression in cup competitions, rarely qualify for European qualifications and battle towards the bottom of the table more regularly than we do the top.. or even the middle.

 

I get what you're saying, yeah Newcastle may still have some pulling power because of the name, the history etc., but to say we're 'literally one of the biggest clubs in Europe' is so far off the mark. It pains me to say it, but we're a shadow of what we were. Even our stadium is an eyesore now-a-days.

 

wasn't the point about eddie f***ing howe?

 

i thought it was, not jurgen klopp....if it was klopp then ok but i thought it was howe

 

I didn't mention Klopp once. Infact I didn't mention Howe once, I just pointed out that your statement of us being one of the biggest clubs in Europe was bollocks. Apologies if you failed to follow this.

 

In terms of Howe, he's been with Bournemouth for two different spells and taken them from League 2 to the Premiership. If he was to leave the club I doubt it'd be for a team that doesn't show ambition, infact he'd probably see Newcastle as a sideways step given how restricted he'd be by the clueless f***ers in charge. And even if he was interested to the point of having sit-down talks with the club, 5 minutes in a room with Dizzy the Egg will be enough to have him on the first train back to the south coast.

 

I just mentioned Klopp as the opposite of Howe.  Whatever you may think we're still a big draw, that was the point.  If you were offered the chance to leave say Brighton and manage us would you do it?  Of course you would.

 

Fair enough. 

 

There is definitely a difference in being the manager of a team that has been in the championship for a number of years and being the manager of a team that you have taken from the very bottom of the football league to the main stage of English football. Hand on heart I would probably want to stick it out with the club that I've essentially built from the bottom. At least for a little while.

 

aye, but imagine being the next Keegan - that's the draw

 

obviously these days that draw is tempered by the fact that your best chance of success will be to sell some socks in SD

[George Bailey]

Uninspiring and mediocre.

We will stumble about with him and make little or no progression as a squad or team imo.

Money wasted.

 

Seems to have some luck though.

Until today I'd say he's had zero luck IMO

 

exactly, what a ridiculous comment.

So he didn't get lucky today? that was what I meant.

[TRon]

Seeing as Howe and Klopp are both getting mentions in this thread, I would like to say that they play the game how I like to see it played. High pressing game and lots of running. McClaren seems to be the other type like Pardew, prefers to sit back and keep it tight. I accept he probably hasn't got the players to play a higher line, but I doubt he'd be looking to do it anyway.

[Guest ElCid]

The useless cunt keeps playing with two defensive midfielders even though  it is totally to the detriment of the team. He is in the same bracket as Pardew and Carver and actually today was one of the worst performances I have seen in years and Bournemouth will not believe how they have not won by 3 or 4 goals today. Progress my fucking arse!

[Guest neesy111]

Not good enough from what i can see.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Tiote and Anita especially are nothing players. They are not very mobile, they are not quick footed enough to work in tight spaces and they can't spot a pass either. Nor can they tackle. Playing them together is essentially wasting a shirt and playing almost with 10 men. The same applies with Colback.

 

You can have a midfielder or two who sit and don't get forward if you have players around them who can get forward, but those two sitting need to be able to move around, have quick feet to get out of tight spaces or away from pressing opposition and they must also be able to play the ball out and about. None of this cowardly sideways and backwards passing or 10 yard forward passes that is the hallmark of Colback's game. Tackling is good, but hardly essential.

 

If we are to use a sitting midfielder then we need someone who is mobile, a good passer and someone who can shift his feet/body etc. when being pressed or in traffic.

 

Of all our players Gini can do that, however we would lose his goal threat so its a must that we sign someone who can.

 

Today you could argue Tiote and Anita did their defensive jobs, but they didn't. Being so deep and so inept meant the attack and attacking midfield had nothing to serve them and the defence had nothing to give to so it was constant backs to the wall stuff and inviting the opposition onto us. But for Elliott and poor finishing and it would have been a hammering, this with two DCM...

[Kanj]

Not changing my position. Still think he's not good enough.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Not changing my position. Still think he's not good enough.

 

He's not, but in a perverse kind of way its going to be interesting to see what becomes of us under him. I like a lot of things I see. I mean today the shouts of "control the ball" and "don't panic", I love owt like that from the dugout. The total antithesis to HATAM HATAM NOT THERE NOT THERE. But its Steve McClaren and therefore I just can't buy into it because I know he's not good enough. As a coach, as a number 2, in Holland, aye maybe but not at NUFC. Not now, not when we appointed him and not ever.

[huss9]

really fucked up letting abeid go.

 

 

 

 

[Guest JS]

Poll reset would be interesting

[HawK]

Honestly, who do people expect the board will replace Steve Mc with if he leaves?

[Collage]

Honestly, who do people expect the board will replace Steve Mc with if he leaves?

 

This is it, pretty much. Today was horrible and I really hope this isn't how McClaren wants to play. Prior to this game I've seen signs of improvement here and there but wouldn't exactly cry if McClaren walked/got the boot. I would however tremble at the thought of Charnley making another manager appointment. 

[Alberto2005]

Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today.

[Guest]

Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today.

 

Hopefully they'll get the taste for winning a game now and add it to some of the 45-60 minute performances we've had this season.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I didn't want him to get the job and I think we could get better BUT I am willing to give him time

 

At least he is not a prick like the last 2 guys and although today was awful, as bad as I have seen us play in a long time BUT there have been games where we have been impressive going forward. Hopefully we can sort the midfield out in January

[jdckelly]

Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today.

today was the most worrying but all 3 games gave plenty to worry about, mostly on the attacking front for all the dominance vs sunderland and stoke we weren't exactly battering their goal like bournemouth were battering us today

[Captain Underpants]

They'll go for Moyes

[Guest Hog]

I can't fathom it, today was the first time I've seen us thoroughly outplayed this season (other than the 2nd half against Man City), and yet we won... I just don't get it at all 

[Guest]

I can't fathom it, today was the first time I've seen us thoroughly outplayed this season (other than the 2nd half against Man City), and yet we won... I just don't get it at all 

 

Swansea & West Ham were the only two worse performances imo.

[Altamullan]

Feel nothing but pleasure about today tbh. Great to get an undeserved win. My only concern about SMc today was slowness to change. It was evident we were over run in MFD. Both Tiote and Anita were too deep; they had an extra man and were basically making use of the vast amount of space we conceded to them (imo); also, on reflection Gini had a poor game, so we had three AWOL/or 'in the trenches'.  SMc did change it, and we looked better (Thauvin looked to have found his mojo again!). Would have expected SMc to be more responsive and certainly before  half-time leave Mitro up on his own and shift Perez, left. That said, if he did this may have given some cause for complaint as we moved from a shape which has been working for us (ish). The lads will gain confidence from today. For periods this season we've bossed good sides (and poor ones), and lost (or drew). Shit like this happens; gave them most of the pitch--and therefore possession and chances-- we won. 

[Guest]

When was the last time we won a game which we didn't deserve actually.

 

Spurs away when Krul was immense?

[Dave]

If we'd beaten Stoke 1-0 then snook out of today with a 0-0 we'd have exactly the same number of points and goals but I think people would be far less annoyed.

 

I don't know where I'm going with this.

[Altamullan]

If we'd beaten Stoke 1-0 then snook out of today with a 0-0 we'd have exactly the same number of points and goals but I think people would be far less annoyed.

 

I don't know where I'm going with this.

Good point; it all comes out in the wash. Fits with my 'just world' delusion. 

[Guest]

I wonder what people's thoughts on him would have been had we beaten Sunderland 1-0 and lost this 3-0 instead...which based on the performances could have easily happened.