Kanji Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not changing my position. Still think he's not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Not changing my position. Still think he's not good enough. He's not, but in a perverse kind of way its going to be interesting to see what becomes of us under him. I like a lot of things I see. I mean today the shouts of "control the ball" and "don't panic", I love owt like that from the dugout. The total antithesis to HATAM HATAM NOT THERE NOT THERE. But its Steve McClaren and therefore I just can't buy into it because I know he's not good enough. As a coach, as a number 2, in Holland, aye maybe but not at NUFC. Not now, not when we appointed him and not ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 really fucked up letting abeid go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Poll reset would be interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Honestly, who do people expect the board will replace Steve Mc with if he leaves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Honestly, who do people expect the board will replace Steve Mc with if he leaves? This is it, pretty much. Today was horrible and I really hope this isn't how McClaren wants to play. Prior to this game I've seen signs of improvement here and there but wouldn't exactly cry if McClaren walked/got the boot. I would however tremble at the thought of Charnley making another manager appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today. Hopefully they'll get the taste for winning a game now and add it to some of the 45-60 minute performances we've had this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I didn't want him to get the job and I think we could get better BUT I am willing to give him time At least he is not a prick like the last 2 guys and although today was awful, as bad as I have seen us play in a long time BUT there have been games where we have been impressive going forward. Hopefully we can sort the midfield out in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Today was more worrying that the previous two weeks. I know it sounds crazy but I felt better about those games than winning today. today was the most worrying but all 3 games gave plenty to worry about, mostly on the attacking front for all the dominance vs sunderland and stoke we weren't exactly battering their goal like bournemouth were battering us today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Underpants Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They'll go for Moyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I can't fathom it, today was the first time I've seen us thoroughly outplayed this season (other than the 2nd half against Man City), and yet we won... I just don't get it at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I can't fathom it, today was the first time I've seen us thoroughly outplayed this season (other than the 2nd half against Man City), and yet we won... I just don't get it at all Swansea & West Ham were the only two worse performances imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Feel nothing but pleasure about today tbh. Great to get an undeserved win. My only concern about SMc today was slowness to change. It was evident we were over run in MFD. Both Tiote and Anita were too deep; they had an extra man and were basically making use of the vast amount of space we conceded to them (imo); also, on reflection Gini had a poor game, so we had three AWOL/or 'in the trenches'. SMc did change it, and we looked better (Thauvin looked to have found his mojo again!). Would have expected SMc to be more responsive and certainly before half-time leave Mitro up on his own and shift Perez, left. That said, if he did this may have given some cause for complaint as we moved from a shape which has been working for us (ish). The lads will gain confidence from today. For periods this season we've bossed good sides (and poor ones), and lost (or drew). Shit like this happens; gave them most of the pitch--and therefore possession and chances-- we won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 When was the last time we won a game which we didn't deserve actually. Spurs away when Krul was immense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 If we'd beaten Stoke 1-0 then snook out of today with a 0-0 we'd have exactly the same number of points and goals but I think people would be far less annoyed. I don't know where I'm going with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 If we'd beaten Stoke 1-0 then snook out of today with a 0-0 we'd have exactly the same number of points and goals but I think people would be far less annoyed. I don't know where I'm going with this. Good point; it all comes out in the wash. Fits with my 'just world' delusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I wonder what people's thoughts on him would have been had we beaten Sunderland 1-0 and lost this 3-0 instead...which based on the performances could have easily happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 If we'd beaten Stoke 1-0 then snook out of today with a 0-0 we'd have exactly the same number of points and goals but I think people would be far less annoyed. I don't know where I'm going with this. Watching it, all I could think was how come we spent £50m on players this summer, yet Howe has a bunch of nobodies playing us off the park? The difference in tempo and intensity of their football compared to ours was like a chasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They're a good team, we're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They're a good team, we're not. If they were a good team they would have scored five today. They are a well organised, hard working championship team. I like their style, which I put down to their manager, but they don't have good players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Howe has been at a club from rock bottom, had several years and been able to install his own philosophy from scratch. McClaren came into a squad rock bottom confidence wise, who've had several years of poor tactics drilled into them, and is having to try and get his ideas across. I reckon once he's been in a while we'll be more than alright under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They're a good team, we're not. If they were a good team they would have scored five today. They are a well organised, hard working championship team. I like their style, which I put down to their manager, but they don't have good players. Sounds similar to us minus 1 game, our finishing minus the Norwich game had been absymal all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Howe has been at a club from rock bottom, had several years and been able to install his own philosophy from scratch. McClaren came into a squad rock bottom confidence wise, who've had several years of poor tactics drilled into them, and is having to try and get his ideas across. I reckon once he's been in a while we'll be more than alright under him. Pretty much this, I don't think McClaren will lead us into the European places, unless we get a bit of luck, he will have us comfortably mid table though, playing decent football, and possibly giving the cups a good shot. We will need another manager to take us to the level from mid table, but right now he's an ideal candidate to take us to the safety of mid table which we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Howe has been at a club from rock bottom, had several years and been able to install his own philosophy from scratch. McClaren came into a squad rock bottom confidence wise, who've had several years of poor tactics drilled into them, and is having to try and get his ideas across. I reckon once he's been in a while we'll be more than alright under him. Same. Clubs like Southampton, Swansea and Bournemouth have a consistent philosophy over years and are focussed on success. McClaren has started from absolutely nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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