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3 defeats in one season to a poor Watford side. He's on level with Pardew in cluelessness and he is taking us down.

 

 

:lol: :thup: For a, supposed, master coach he can't think of way to beat them and they're really not good. They'll be down again next season.

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This is going to be an interesting week ahead. Ashley will be desperate to avoid relegation to get his hands on the new TV money. Yet, he's stuck with a manager who's begging him to bring a striker which will cost big money and have no guarantees that the same manager can manage to avoid the drop.

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For those who think McClaren is complete and total shite, do you seriously think the players / squad are good enough?

 

Give them to a highly rated manager and we'll see. But yes, I think they should be better than 18th in the league.

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nah, just bang average imo.

 

What's bang average?

one of those managers who will drift from place to place , do ok for a spell then it ends and they get sacked......see pardew,Hughes, Rodgers. Hell man, give Phil Brown a better squad and he'll look ok again.. look at klopp floundering at Liverpool's till he can spend more than most in the summer. Truly great managers a few and far between. We maybe had the last who could make a silk purse out if a sows ear and do it over time.
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all him today, he pardewed his way to this one

 

Aided by a fair amount of s**** on the pitch.

All he had to do was make one f***ing change. Jesus.

 

And then what? Our centre halves still would've been mugged off by Deeney and Ighalo being able to out-muscle them.

 

So might have been an idea to play to our strengths then rather than rely on a defence that got raped by the same front pair at St James.

The f*** are people watching?

 

The same thing but trying to view it with more balance, maybe?

Balance. Christ.

 

Have you actually criticised any players today, by any chance? Or is it just your usual McClaren rant that you've been regurgitating every single week for about the last 7 months?

We're back to the Pardew days again are we? Manager gets it all wrong so lets blame the players, or perceived lack of them.

 

Last week was McClaren, I don't recall anyone taking it away from him. Today was McClaren too, f***ing s***. Every decision wrong just like most of his time here or we'd have more points.

 

Why do you only view this as one way or the other? That's my point, I only ever see you criticise one person out of the staff in our whole mess.

Because we go through players like a hot knife through butter while holding onto managers for years.

 

It's simple stuff to me.

 

Get a better manager the players will play better.

 

Today was the worst I've seen of McClaren, basically Pardew vs Reading levels of absolute s****.

 

You blame whoever you want but I said before the game started we were beat with that formation and selection and that's how it turned out.

 

And you don't think there's a decent chance we'd have been beaten in a 4-2-3-1 with 2 physically poor CBs against 2 of the most direct forwards in the league?

 

I think today was reminiscent of early this season with Anita playing at 3rd CB so things looked good until everyone realises we had no attacking intent and we lost.

 

I really don't think I'm alone in thinking if we'd played the same formation as WHU with Aarons at LB we'd have given a much better account of ourselves.

 

You praised the Anita thing and gave him pelters when he stopped doing it [emoji38]

 

Meh. This won't go anywhere. We didn't look very good going forward today even when people were in their more conventional spots. The only time we looked threatening was that opening 20 which was with a 3.

Excuse me? Ah yeah, total nonsense. Cheers.

 

Not total nonsense at all. I vividly remember us having a discussion a few months back and you definitely criticised him for stopping the Anita dropping back thing. You pretty much said every decision McClaren made was shit and the only good thing he'd done, get Anita to drop back and pick up the ball, was something he'd abandoned.

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For those who think McClaren is complete and total shite, do you seriously think the players / squad are good enough?

 

If we somehow manage to stay up- it will be in spit of this buffoon and not because of him.

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For those who think McClaren is complete and total shite, do you seriously think the players / squad are good enough?

 

Swansea are hardly setting the world alight but they made Watford look like donkeys. Therein lies the difference.

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I actually like the fact he's willing to try weird shit out like 3 at the back, but this was just completely the wrong way to go about it. Very limited experience playing it and effectively 4 new players in the side. I think you really need to be playing 2-3 forwards in a system like that too.

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For those who think McClaren is complete and total s****, do you seriously think the players / squad are good enough?

 

Swansea are hardly setting the world alight but they made Watford look like donkeys. Therein lies the difference.

and Watford made Liverpool look like donkeys.  What's your point ?
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For those who think McClaren is complete and total s****, do you seriously think the players / squad are good enough?

 

Swansea are hardly setting the world alight but they made Watford look like donkeys. Therein lies the difference.

and Watford made Liverpool look like donkeys.  What's your point ?

 

That you need to set your side up to keep possession against a side like Watford who aren't that good. I am assuming that is what we pay all this money for when we sign internationals.

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I actually like the fact he's willing to try weird s*** out like 3 at the back, but this was just completely the wrong way to go about it. Very limited experience playing it and effectively 4 new players in the side. I think you really need to be playing 2-3 forwards in a system like that too.

 

It ended up too central, like. Not quite sure what our final team actually was :lol:

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