Darth Crooks Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Jaanmaat by a country mile; footy is all leadership by example and I bet he's more articulate than all of the others mentioned. The Obertan thing is ludicrous if anyone just runs its him. it'll be colo or colback for the pashun/jawdee factor or just plain old status quo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Jaanmaat by a country mile; footy is all leadership by example and I bet he's more articulate than all of the others mentioned. The Obertan thing is ludicrous if anyone just runs its him. it'll be colo or colback for the pashun/jawdee factor or just plain old status quo I disagree with that, Colo was supposed to be the 'leader by example'. To me footballing leadership is all about organising, motivating, accountable and vocal. Basically see Terry, John. I think Carragher was a far better 'captain' than Gerrard, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Surprised not to see de Jong or Wijnaldum in that group. None of those are surprising though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 colo was for a long time, as was terry with his last ditch efforts (along with being vocal of course) too many average players are praised for being gobshites in the game. I always thought carragher a competent if overrated player and Gerard just as likely to cheat, do something risky as do something brilliant, which he was of course. It's a very hazy term in football but coming back to Nufc I think jsanmaat has the intelligence, command and temperament to do it best. Which means it'll be colback every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Really hate my username btw. Can I change my name to Darth Crooks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Surprised not to see de Jong or Wijnaldum in that group. None of those are surprising though. Why would they have either of those players in a group that was being asked what went wrong last season when they weren't there/ injured for the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Surprised not to see de Jong or Wijnaldum in that group. None of those are surprising though. Why would they have either of those players in a group that was being asked what went wrong last season when they weren't there/ injured for the season That's their purpose in the short-term but I assume it's a long-term leadership committee? If so, De Jong/Wijnaldum should be involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Really hate my username btw. Can I change my name to Darth Crooks? Rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Really hate my username btw. Can I change my name to Darth Crooks? Rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/07/steve-mcclaren-confirms-gouffran-in-leadership-group/ Eh? He didn't say Gouffran did he? He was by far the worst offender last season, didn't give a shred of effort out of position or not, I really hoped we had seen the back of this little c*** but if hes part of the leadership team then does that mean he will be starting? Wide left maybe? Ahead of Aarons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm starting to think Mclaren is going to be the same as Pardew or Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Was Gouff captain for half of the Portland game? Fairly tenuous link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm starting to think Mclaren is going to be the same as Pardew or Carver. This. I'll be furious if Williamson or Gouffran start against Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/07/steve-mcclaren-confirms-gouffran-in-leadership-group/ Eh? He didn't say Gouffran did he? <b>He was by far the worst offender last season, didn't give a shred of effort out of position or not</b>, I really hoped we had seen the back of this little c*** but if hes part of the leadership team then does that mean he will be starting? Wide left maybe? Ahead of Aarons? Disagree with that like. As much as I don't rate him as a player, I don't think his issues with us are necessarily his fault. (In my opinion) he puts a lot of effort in, but he's clearly been broken as a player under the previous regime. For me, he should either be a backup striker or nowhere near the team... certainly not a defensive winger. I agree that overall hes been ruined as a player, he came here as a fairly decent striker and has been used as a conventional left winger, and even used at a defensive midfielder, if he was put up front as a squad player I actually think he would do OK. But hes the only player that I actively saw giving up when he lost the ball, and it was often, the guy just used to walk or lightly jog around the pitch most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Was Gouff captain for half of the Portland game? Fairly tenuous link. Seems an extremely misleading title if the 45 minutes as captain is all they're basing it off to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 First pump will ask his daddy to sort a transfer if this is true. Fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Gouffran tracking back was awful last season. I know he's not a central midfielder but it was awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/07/steve-mcclaren-confirms-gouffran-in-leadership-group/ Eh? He didn't say Gouffran did he? He was by far the worst offender last season, didn't give a shred of effort out of position or not, I really hoped we had seen the back of this little c*** but if hes part of the leadership team then does that mean he will be starting? Wide left maybe? Ahead of Aarons? That headline has been written by some Adrian Durham wannabe, there is no way Gouffran is going to be the captain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Captain will clearly be Colback. It should be De Jong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hehehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 "I want 11 leaders on the pitch." http://i.imgur.com/ZihZDQb.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 11 footballers would be a start given the clip of some of these friendly lineups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Really hate my username btw. Can I change my name to Darth Crooks? Rise. Definitely changed it just to post this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It looks like he's enjoying it tonight! http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/29/c15907aee6f16855ac3cf1b6151fa3bd.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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