Mattoon Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I concur we'd have grabbed a raggy win somewhere or put out a dog turd display at home for a few more draws. That doesn't mean I'd rather we were still in that position. I'm glad we are where we are, I would have taken us improving under McClaren and playing better football but I'll also accept being worse but not in a groundhog day of perpetuating loathing of everything at the club. Strangely even though worse in a twisted way it feels better because the man that made me hate football is gone and the fat fucker is closer to selling up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I'm not sure if we would have more points with Pardew in charge tbh, it's pure guesswork to say he would. I think it would have been canny similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Not gonna worry myself with how we'd supposedly be doing with Pardew. The man proved he was capable of having us tread water whilst playing God awful football - whilst being a massive cunt. Now we're in the relegation zone which isn't that different imo. Certainly not in terms of how I feel. A lot of this is his doing anyway, which is the point people keep forgetting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 This club can go fuck itself- I am out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 During the time Pardew was manager, over 4 years, we were the only ever-present member of the division not to take a single point off Man City, home or away, so I wouldn't go using today as an opportunity to sing that cunt's praises. Make no mistake, he was integral to creating the NUFC you see before you and nobody should ever forget that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We lost pretty much every match in 2014 and people think we'd be doing better under Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We would be doing better under Pardew. Doesn't mean anything except he's not quite as useless as McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 And if we spent 15 mil on a manager... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Or, what if Ashley actually cared to hire a quality Managing Director? Dropped that stupid board? Dropped that stupid transfer policy? Dropped Wonga? Cared for the club, the fans and the city? What would happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Or, what if Ashley actually cared to hire a quality Managing Director? Dropped that stupid board? Dropped that stupid transfer policy? Dropped Wonga? Cared for the club, the fans and the city? What would happen? Some sort of break in the time space continuum. Rivers of blood, plagues of locusts, the whole deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Or, what if Ashley actually cared to hire a quality Managing Director? Dropped that stupid board? Dropped that stupid transfer policy? Dropped Wonga? Cared for the club, the fans and the city? What would happen? Some sort of break in the time space continuum. Rivers of blood, plagues of locusts, the whole deal. I'm afraid so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We lost pretty much every match in 2014 and people think we'd be doing better under Pardew? This is our worst ever start in PL history. Our worst start since the 1800's! We certainly (and didn't) wouldn't be doing any worse under Pardew which says all you need to know about McClaren and this group of imposters out on the pitch. No point in typing what I think about Ashley because the swear filter would make it unreadable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Turn it off then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Turn it off then. Nah there'll be bairns reading this no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Huh? It still works for guests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We lost pretty much every match in 2014 and people think we'd be doing better under Pardew? This is our worst ever start in PL history. Our worst start since the 1800's! We certainly (and didn't) wouldn't be doing any worse under Pardew which says all you need to know about McClaren and this group of imposters out on the pitch. No point in typing what I think about Ashley because the swear filter would make it unreadable. Starts shmarts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sacking McClaren honestly won't achieve much. As several folk have already alluded to, there is a patent, deep-seated sense of malaise within the squad that will work against any coaching the players receive. The minute things take a turn for the worse, heads drop and the floodgates invariably open. The problem is endemic; simply doing a Sunderland and axing the manager in search of a short-term fix addresses absolutely nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 He's got the Papiss shit-eating smile. No contrition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 What we need is to shift out the dead-weight players so that whoever manages us can start with a clean slate, it's pointless while players like Cissé, Sissoko, Colo, etc are lurking around just to take the paycheck. They breed an air of apathy and laziness around the club, the younger players and new signings can't be expected to carry things far without the more experienced players pulling their weight. To be fair I think the signings we made during the summer are good players, but how can they shine when they're fire-fighting in a team already struggling for drive. Most of the games since the start of the season we could have got 'something' from and haven't played as badly as the results/table show imo, but the performances have been patchy and let down by individual mistakes from the senior, can't be arsed players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hog Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 On a side note, I understand why the senior players have thrown in the towel, to be honest it has all come about by the club making a concerted effort not to challenge for anything, just to accept mid-table as a target without any cup runs. The players that have been here during that time have given up, they've forgotten how to make an effort because they haven't needed to. SO in the grand scheme of things this still falls back to being the club/Ashley's fault for his previous 'plan' for running the club. Now that they might actually want to make a go of it the older players don't give a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 What we need is to shift out the dead-weight players so that whoever manages us can start with a clean slate, it's pointless while players like Cissé, Sissoko, Colo, etc are lurking around just to take the paycheck. They breed an air of apathy and laziness around the club, the younger players and new signings can't be expected to carry things far without the more experienced players pulling their weight. To be fair I think the signings we made during the summer are good players, but how can they shine when they're fire-fighting in a team already struggling for drive. Most of the games since the start of the season we could have got 'something' from and haven't played as badly as the results/table show imo, but the performances have been patchy and let down by individual mistakes from the senior, can't be arsed players. Well, it needs starting at the top. With Lee Charney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Turn it off then. Nah there'll be bairns reading this no doubt. Fuck 'em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Turn it off then. Nah there'll be bairns reading this no doubt. f*** 'em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Shit sorry, I mean watch them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 If he doesn't win the next two then. Charnley, Carr and McClaren have to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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