Guest ElCid Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He has no idea how to change the game, nice guy but not the right bloke for the job. Two defensive midfielders agai and getting dominated in the middle of the park again - cruel winner but let's be honest only one team deserved to win that match. Sick and tried of seeing this joke of a manager making the same mistakes week after week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 No idea what was up with Thauvin not coming on in the 65th minute when he was ready to go. Or why we only made 1 sub today. Dunno what it will take to get him to stop playing this line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 No idea what was up with Thauvin not coming on in the 65th minute when he was ready to go. Or why we only made 1 sub today. Dunno what it will take to get him to stop playing this line up. Think he wasn't brought on then because Ayoze had just had that decent turn and shot as he was about to be taken off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 No idea what was up with Thauvin not coming on in the 65th minute when he was ready to go. Or why we only made 1 sub today. Dunno what it will take to get him to stop playing this line up. Think he wasn't brought on then because Ayoze had just had that decent turn and shot as he was about to be taken off If that's the case then it makes it even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Well, he started with mitro and Perez.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He's a pansy, man. Wanted the 0-0. No balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Well, he started with mitro and Perez.... And fair enough it didn't work, whether that was because of us being too deep or whatever. But in that case it begs the question why he didn't change it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Don't get how De Jong can do enough to start and then keep his place and then go to being not necessary off the bench when we're evidently struggling. Weird how Thauvin was prepped to come on and then didn't for an age after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Can only think it was due to how heavy the pitch was. But then again maybe a short stint would have helped his fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He has no idea how to change the game, nice guy but not the right bloke for the job. Spurs? His two subs changed the game and got us the win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Can't really moan at McClren too much today, bar starting Colback as norm but you just accept that now. Felt sorry for De Jong but had to be Perez if it was one over the other. Saying that, Perez was rather ineffective today bar the fact he worked hard. Thought it was hard to make subs today, weren't really playing badly bar first 20 mins where Everton were class. Perez for Thauvin was pretty much all McClaren could have really done imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I was behind the dugout and he got a few interesting heckles. He looked on edge throughout. Not very lively in that section though - apart from in the 17th minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Tactically very rigid. He hasn't experimented very much with the shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Can't really moan at McClren too much today, bar starting Colback as norm but you just accept that now. Felt sorry for De Jong but had to be Perez if it was one over the other. Saying that, Perez was rather ineffective today bar the fact he worked hard. Thought it was hard to make subs today, weren't really playing badly bar first 20 mins where Everton were class. Perez for Thauvin was pretty much all McClaren could have really done imo. Agreed with you last time but not this time. There is certainly plenty of things to moan about McClaren and his insistance of continuously operating with two defensive midfielders. He does it every game and just about every game we are outplayed in the centre of the pitch and as such cannot control the game; thus inviting pressure onto your back four and also not providing a consistant threat from the middle of the pitch. Everton were made to look good as they could dictate the play at a whim. You can also certainly criticise him for playing Dummet who is a nightmare both defensively and then also gives the ball away time after time by just hoofing the ball forward with no disrection or purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Tbh, I agree with post. Maybe it's my fault for just accepting it from McClaren's point of view then thinking he hasn't made an outrageous decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He has no idea how to change the game, nice guy but not the right bloke for the job. Two defensive midfielders agai and getting dominated in the middle of the park again - cruel winner but let's be honest only one team deserved to win that match. Sick and tried of seeing this joke of a manager making the same mistakes week after week. I'm more sick and tired of you posting the same comment in this thread game after game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Well yes, but that comment in particular is spot in and has been after almost every game. Maybe if McClaren tried something different people wouldn't feel the need to point out that here is a man who keeps on doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Alternatives have been tried and haven't worked. Gini in the centre is not an option, neither is Sissoko. Therefore you have 2 from Colback, Anita or Tiote. So basically we need new CM's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 When you say alternatives have been tried do you mean to say that Colback was not played when unavailable only? And even moving away from player names, have we really tried different formations than a flat back four "protected" by two defensive midfielders, even against weaker opposition at home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Alternatives have been tried and haven't worked. Gini in the centre is not an option, neither is Sissoko. Therefore you have 2 from Colback, Anita or Tiote. So basically we need new CM's. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 He has no idea how to change the game, nice guy but not the right bloke for the job. Two defensive midfielders agai and getting dominated in the middle of the park again - cruel winner but let's be honest only one team deserved to win that match. Sick and tried of seeing this joke of a manager making the same mistakes week after week. I'm more sick and tired of you posting the same comment in this thread game after game. Does that not tell you something but to be honest I wouldn't expect anything else from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Getting panned by journalists on Twitter for describing the second half performance as "magnificent" with only one shot on target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 When you say alternatives have been tried do you mean to say that Colback was not played when unavailable only? And even moving away from player names, have we really tried different formations than a flat back four "protected" by two defensive midfielders, even against weaker opposition at home? I mean that we've looked the same (shit) whichever two have played from Colback, Anita, Tiote and Wijnaldum. And regarding formations, the 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1 has been the most successful, so I can see the logic for sticking with it. 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 were both shite, which leaves 3 at the back or a diamond? Alternatives have been tried and haven't worked. Gini in the centre is not an option, neither is Sissoko. Therefore you have 2 from Colback, Anita or Tiote. So basically we need new CM's. Why? Gini has looked shit in limited time centrally, doesn't really have the skillset to be a Cabaye type player and it takes away his freedom to make runs in the final third. Sissoko is fucking thick defensively and can't pass it 5 yards. Plus similarly to Gini it takes away from his greatest skill of making those driving runs into the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Magnificent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Getting panned by journalists on Twitter for describing the second half performance as "magnificent" with only one shot on target. Again tells you everything you need to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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