sturla Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 He'd rather just sign nobody. Downing and Bent today, the next Leeds/Portsmouth tomorrow. Leeds/Portsmouth status can also be achieved through relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I think I can fill the gap of understanding here. We leave ourselves short in key positions transfer window after transfer window. People get relatively enthusiastic when they hear we might plug those gaps with better players, even if they're not world beaters. Most people aren't enthused with waiting around for yet another window playing the same substandard players for another 5 months. When those linked players inevitably move to another club that will pay the going rate, people get a bit peeved that we're going to persevere with poor players because there was nowt left in the bargain bin. But yeah, let's keep hanging around playing shite players, waiting for the perfect signing at the perfect price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Sinclair is apparently available for less than Downing was, can I not be annoyed that we didn't sign him or do I have to sit on the naughty step because I didn't just accept Downing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Sinclair is apparently available for less than Downing was, can I not be annoyed that we didn't sign him or do I have to sit on the naughty step because I didn't just accept Downing? Please read what I posted mate, the frustration is that we probably won't plug the gaps. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 In other words I would rather we signed Sinclair too but suspect we'll sign nobody, and if I cared enough I'd be fuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Definitely not disagreeing that we won't leave ourselves short AGAIN, when we are really not that far from having such a good squad. I actually watch those YouTube videos where people kick themselves in the face and feel a little envious. I would just rather we didn't sign poor players for the sake of it, I don't think it means we will go bankrupt but I do believe it means our glorious leader will have more excuses in the future to not make further signings. In an ideal world Carr or Kinnear () would persuade Ashley that someone like Thauvin, Ince, Sinclair, Moses etc.. would be a much better 'investment' and we would spend similar money on better players who haven't already started their decline and are very likely to be the next Damien Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Definitely not disagreeing that we won't leave ourselves short AGAIN, when we are really not that far from having such a good squad. I actually watch those YouTube videos where people kick themselves in the face and feel a little envious. I would just rather we didn't sign poor players for the sake of it, I don't think it means we will go bankrupt but I do believe it means our glorious leader will have more excuses in the future to not make further signings. In an ideal world Carr or Kinnear () would persuade Ashley that someone like Thauvin, Ince, Sinclair, Moses etc.. would be a much better 'investment' and we would spend similar money on better players who haven't already started their decline and are very likely to be the next Damien Duff. Whilst I understand the argument of rather buying younger players with a longer future, one thing I can't get my head around is consciously keeping Pardew who has been banging the drum of requiring Premiership experience and probably players suited to a more direct style, and then proceeding to not providing him with the tools he wants. You'd either look for a manager capable of making the most of the profile of player you target (and trust your chief scout's judgement on their valuation based on their growth potential), or you back your manager to give him the best possible chance of succeeding. As it is, we are doing neither, which is not benefitting anybody, be it Pardew, the players, the fans or the owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yep don't care how much anyone rattles on about Ameobi and Gutierrez (as if Bent would be Ameobis replacement and as if we dont already have better than Gutierrez..). If we dont bring in Gomis or someone of a similar type and quality I'll be annoyed about that, but I'll never be annoyed at ''missing out'' on Bent and Downing, quite the opposite. Why? Because it will have saved money we won't spend elsewhere? No money isnt my first concern with those two, not wanting the players themselves is my first concern. I've explained my reasons for not wanting Bent and my reasons for not wanting Downing are very simple, he's shit. Not wanting to waste money if its available would be secondary but also important. If we were to spend £14m (what it would have cost to sign Bent and Downing) I'd rather spend that elsewhere. Saying, but we wont spend it elsewhere is a circular atgument, because if thats the case then Bent and Downing were never an option. Anyway like I said if I'm going to be annoyed about not signing players it'll be because we didnt bring in players like Gomis and Ince, not Bent and Downing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Definitely not disagreeing that we won't leave ourselves short AGAIN, when we are really not that far from having such a good squad. I actually watch those YouTube videos where people kick themselves in the face and feel a little envious. I would just rather we didn't sign poor players for the sake of it, I don't think it means we will go bankrupt but I do believe it means our glorious leader will have more excuses in the future to not make further signings. In an ideal world Carr or Kinnear () would persuade Ashley that someone like Thauvin, Ince, Sinclair, Moses etc.. would be a much better 'investment' and we would spend similar money on better players who haven't already started their decline and are very likely to be the next Damien Duff. Fair enough. I wasn't getting dead excited about the thought of having Downing in the side but I thought he'd give us more than Jonas, who I suspect will be in the side a lot until January once his arse gets better. It's what being an NUFC fan is about these days, feeding off scraps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Might actually have to buy this detestable cunt now that Bent has fucked off. Probably continue to play silly buggers for a couple more weeks though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Might actually have to buy this detestable c*** now that Bent has f***ed off. Probably continue to play silly buggers for a couple more weeks though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Turned down the extended contract according to RMC. Dismissed professional group Bafé Gomis find the football this weekend. But not with the pro team that moves to Sochaux on Friday. The striker OL was retained in the group's reserve team and face Raon-Step. According to our information, the French international would have made the idea of continuing with the reserve team until the end of the season because absolutely no wish to extend his contract with the club Rhone. One way to negotiate with a new club from January and to receive a nice signing bonus. The side of the OL is more than open the door for a starting player who also bet on the fact that the club Lyon have need of his services during the first half of the season. The club has continued discussions with Gomis as evidenced by meetings with the coach, Remi Garde and exchanges with Bernard Lacombe, advisor to President Aulas who registers as a mediator between the player and the club management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Howay Baffa lad, jump on the Eurostar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Definitely not disagreeing that we won't leave ourselves short AGAIN, when we are really not that far from having such a good squad. I actually watch those YouTube videos where people kick themselves in the face and feel a little envious. I would just rather we didn't sign poor players for the sake of it, I don't think it means we will go bankrupt but I do believe it means our glorious leader will have more excuses in the future to not make further signings. In an ideal world Carr or Kinnear () would persuade Ashley that someone like Thauvin, Ince, Sinclair, Moses etc.. would be a much better 'investment' and we would spend similar money on better players who haven't already started their decline and are very likely to be the next Damien Duff. Whilst I understand the argument of rather buying younger players with a longer future, one thing I can't get my head around is consciously keeping Pardew who has been banging the drum of requiring Premiership experience and probably players suited to a more direct style, and then proceeding to not providing him with the tools he wants. You'd either look for a manager capable of making the most of the profile of player you target (and trust your chief scout's judgement on their valuation based on their growth potential), or you back your manager to give him the best possible chance of succeeding. As it is, we are doing neither, which is not benefitting anybody, be it Pardew, the players, the fans or the owner. This is because our entire recruitmemt strategy is based on opportunism as opposed to suitability. Manager included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm considering getting a mortgage to pay for the sell on/agent fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I give up caring about transfers. I watch with interest but the politics behind it all has just become boring. I'm looking forward to the return of football and talking about player, teams, goals and tactics etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I give up caring about transfers. I watch with interest but the politics behind it all has just become boring. I'm looking forward to the return of football and talking about player, teams, goals and tactics etc. Same here really, I wish the transfer window didn't exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Wouldn't help your case for Ashley much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Wouldn't help your case for Ashley much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Fuck it, we should just offer Chelsea their money back for Ba. I can't really see how Cisse, Remy, Gomis and Ben Arfa would fit into the same side anyway so one of them would have to have been benched. Ba and Cisse can fight it out for the centre forward spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Can see us waiting til January and then getting him on a pre contract, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I give up caring about transfers. I watch with interest but the politics behind it all has just become boring. I'm looking forward to the return of football and talking about player, teams, goals and tactics etc. Same here really, I wish the transfer window didn't exist. Oh really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Convinced we will still get him this window, he hasn't signed an improved contract which leads me to believe Lyon will be desperate and we'll go in at a lower price and get our man, its exactly the kind of risk Ashley would take to shave a couple of mil off the price. Just have to be patient for a bit longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Can see us waiting til January and then getting him on a pre contract, unfortunately. Would that be the January window that Marseilles are urging him to wait for, as by then they'll be able to afford him at a lower price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I've purposely not looked at this thread for days, can someone explain why he's not joined us? Is he holding out for Marseille or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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