Mick Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Rely on gutierrez? He hasn't shown he can do anything yet until the real games start. He has shown us what he can do in pre-season and if he can carry that over to league games then we've got a very good player, so far it looks good. He can't prove himself as a Premiership player until he's had a few games but he looks like he can do well for us, I've been impressed by what I've seen from him in his few games that he's played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob X Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'll wait and see what he can do in games that matter before I jump on his bandwagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Forget £6M. I'd sell him for half that if I had any confidence that we'd sign a replacement. But in mid-August, with the season starting on Sunday, selling him at any price would just mean 1 less player and we can't afford that at this point. That is the position we are in, and it is probably the position that all of the clubs we are attempting buy players from are in as well. You leave things this late, and you either pay over the odds or get shot down. Thank fuck you aren't our chairman then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Just reminded me of the Chronicle when they reported Liverpool's bid for Milner, and they said we were offered Hobbs, Insua, and an un-named reserve that wasn't even important enough to be named. Anyone think Oliver was referring to Danny Guthrie by any chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 O'Neill never went public with the players he was offered by Liverpool, but the Chronicle can reveal that Benitez has dangled 19-year-old defenders Emiliano Insua and Jack Hobbs in front of United. The third player was so insignificant that my St James’s Park source could not even recall his name – and needless to say United will not be biting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Rely on gutierrez? He hasn't shown he can do anything yet until the real games start. Aside from that time when he played in Spain? Means fuck all until he shows what he can do for us. What has Milner done for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Was one of if not our best player the season we finished 7th under Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Was one of if not our best player the season we finished 7th under Roeder. The season he was at Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Was one of if not our best player the season we finished 7th under Roeder. Who was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Was one of if not our best player the season we finished 7th under Roeder. The season he was at Villa? That's what I was getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Was that the season he was at Villa? Ok Martins first season.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Pointless in selling him unless we get someone else in first. He's shit. No point in keeping him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Personally hope that he stays and think he will. He's looked promising in pre-season and I reckon a more central role will see him thrive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Personally hope that he stays and think he will. He's looked promising in pre-season and I reckon a more central role will see him thrive. Pre-season form only counts for Duff apparently, Milner is past it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Personally hope that he stays and think he will. He's looked promising in pre-season and I reckon a more central role will see him thrive. I'd be pretty annoyed if he's starting regularly this season in a central role because that will mean we've not signed a more specialist central midfielder who can attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 One in, one out.... in that order. Smith being the obvious exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 More paper bollocks, Keegan likes him as a player, and we need all the attacking falir we can get. He looked pretty good on Saturday too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't rate Milner particularly highly, but he's well worth hanging on to for the time being. If we were offered an extortionate amount (i.e. £7m ish) after having got Larsson in I'd let him go though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Personally hope that he stays and think he will. He's looked promising in pre-season and I reckon a more central role will see him thrive. I'd be pretty annoyed if he's starting regularly this season in a central role because that will mean we've not signed a more specialist central midfielder who can attack. All depends on the formation we play I suppose, but I see your point. I do think he can and will do a good job for us in the coming season though, maybe coming off the bench. I think a lot will be determined on how he can impose himself if Keegan decides to play him down the middle. I said last season I believe he'd look better in the centre of the pitch instead of down the flanks so hopefully he can prove me right and prove that a change of position will be beneficial for both himself and the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Personally hope that he stays and think he will. He's looked promising in pre-season and I reckon a more central role will see him thrive. See this suggestion knocked out quite a lot on here, never seen anyone elaborate past it though, as in why they think he'd be good in the middle, cos personally I don't see anything in his play to make me think he'd be good there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 We don't need the money so I see no reason to sell unless we're already planning on bringing in a better player.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 If we're going to stick with the 4-3-3, sell because he's too one-dimensional as a player to be useful in any role, and purchase a replacement with more technical or pass 'n' move ability. If we're going to switch back to 4-4-2, keep him because he's a half decent winger with the ability to put in a killer cross once in a while, on top of which on his day he can be a handful for decent fullbacks. And he's still young. If it means we could move for someone like Arteta or Elano or someone of that ilk, we should snap the hands off anyone willing to part with £6m+. We pretty much have a replacement in Gutierrez as it is. Agree with this entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 One in, one out.... in that order. Smith being the obvious exception. Why? You're shit, you're shit and you need to get sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonDevil Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Just reminded me of the Chronicle when they reported Liverpool's bid for Milner, and they said we were offered Hobbs, Insua, and an un-named reserve that wasn't even important enough to be named. Anyone think Oliver was referring to Danny Guthrie by any chance. Looking back, IF it was Guthrie, Insua, and Hobbs, I'd take the deal, especially if there was another 1-2 million thrown in. Would solve our backup LB and CB spots (which we seem to be after, still) and allow us to focus on the other parts of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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