relámpago blanco Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 We'd have been happy with any of those managers. More likely that they know how to get the best out of him which admittedly involves playing with better players than the s**** we have in midfield. Or maybe they have a special machine that turns ordinary people into world class footballers. You can only train people to improve things slightly. If you can't cross by the age of 22 or whatever he is then you'll never be able to. If you have absolutely no footballing ability by the age of 26 then you never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob X Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Ferguson wanted Ronaldo. And SBR wanted Viana. Ferguson is an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Villa after Milner seems a strange one, as part of what made them so effective last year was the sheer pace and directness of player like Young and Agbonlahor out wide, teams couldn't deal with it. Not even Jon will argue that Milner is suited to that sort of style so the only thing I can think of is that they'll look to play him centrally and take advantage of his engine and Villa's relatively direct style. Rafa is an easy one to figure out. He hasn't got it in him to bring in a proper flair player that'll really make a difference for them in wide areas so Milner is another Rafa type of player. Hard-working, versatile and able to produce the odd moment here or there that'll justify bringing him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob X Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Benitez will never have any success with that philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I agree, but it's why I could see him signing Milner as it's the only way he seems to know. Edit: I'm assuming you mean in the league, and aren't being a smart arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob X Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Me? A smart arse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 9 million for a player that can't beat players, can't pass, cant cross, hardly scores and has s*** movement and no pace who plays as a winger has to be deal of the century But I have to say he is one of very few in the team who give 200%...Sadly even 1000% is not good enough from Milner as he lacks skill, pace, trickery for an important position as a winger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 9 million is far too good for him. Take it and get Larsson in for a fraction of the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 9 million is far too good for him. Take it and get Larsson in for a fraction of the price. Birmingham won't let him go on the cheap, weren't we supposed to of had a £4.5m bid for him turned down already this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightstuff83 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I can undrstand the arguement of we cannot afford to sell him as it leaves minimal time to find a replacement, however I honestly believe it is too good an offer to turn down simply due to time constraints! This is a distinctly average player who has not/may never really star for us, and I feel the 9 mil could be an excellent piece of business. There are better right sided midfielders out there who may be struggling for a game this season (the obvious being SWP and Lennon) and could lead to them be very attainable! I honestly do not see Milner making our starting 11 this season if we are at full strength, so there is no way we can afford to tunr down the money! Getting rid of average players and replacing them with good ones, the sign of a team thats on the up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko1892 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 £9m theres no doubt about it imo. He give his all but it simply isnt good enough, with £9m i wouldnt think twice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 If SWP was available for £9m I reckon Villa would be in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Villa after Milner seems a strange one, as part of what made them so effective last year was the sheer pace and directness of player like Young and Agbonlahor out wide, teams couldn't deal with it. That's actually not true. Agbonlahor is useless out wide and didn't play there last season. He did the season before, but last season he played up front with Carew. One thing worth mentioning is that our coach is John Robertson, one of the best crossers of the ball ever. He did a pretty good job helping Ashley Young improve his crossing, I would imagine the plan is for him to do the same with Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Ok, obviously Villa really ARE prepared to pay £9m. it's not stupid figure being bandied about at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Either way, I'd say part of what makes Villa work is that they have a lot pace in the attacking third to feed off Carew. How do you see Milner fitting in then? There's only so much that good coaching can do as far as I'm concerned, and I'll be very, very surprised if Milner is ever considered a good crosser of the ball, though a bit of improvement to make his crossing more consistent will doubtless be a big help to his game, given the amount of truly abysmal crosses he does put in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 We'd have been happy with any of those managers. More likely that they know how to get the best out of him which admittedly involves playing with better players than the shite we have in midfield. Actually, you're not wrong there. Our midfield last season was probably the worst in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 If we were to get a better replacement in straight away i would not be bothered but to sell and be left short will be criminal in our current bare bones squad . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheKingOfNewcastle Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Actually, you're not wrong there. Our midfield last season was probably the worst in the league. Agree 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 The flaw in selling Milner is the ability of our management team to get a better replacement. Given their track record so far, I doubt we would have anyone in before the end of August, thus leaving our squad even thinner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Lets sell him and spend fucking ages releasing the registration. Oh, and not announce he's been sold. Yeah, lets do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1367311,00.html KEVIN Keegan has rubbished talk of James Milner leaving St.James' Park and has instead insisted: "He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell". The 22-year-old has been the subject of a rumoured approach from Aston Villa in recent days having spent a season on loan with the Midlands club two years ago. But, with Milner having been one of the Magpies' star performers during the pre-season build-up, Toon boss KK says that his young winger is going nowhere. "He is the last player that Newcastle United want to sell, and I'm talking about the owner and myself," insisted the United chief. "James Milner won't be leaving here, I'm sure of that." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Looks like Keegan has realised the problem with Milner like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 How on earth Smith is still here i've no idea! I'm gobsmacked he's going to remain and get 60'000 a week for what he's shown us uptil now. On the Milner front though if he can find another position that suits him best then fine but he's no fucking winger and never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 There were pro's and con's to selling him tbh. We'd have got more than I think he's worth but little time to replace him so I'm happy for KK to keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 There were pro's and con's to selling him tbh. We'd have got more than I think he's worth but little time to replace him so I'm happy for KK to keep him. No cons whatsoever to selling him and we have plenty of time to replace him tbh Lua Lua and some youngsters we have would put in a more effective performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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