Nicky Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 He was class on saturday. Really looked like he cared. If he goes, we WONT get anyone better than him its as simple as that, thats why we should pull out all the stops to keep him. That ship has sailed. He's as good as gone. And tmonkey I'm not just talking about the hull game, he's a class apart all the time imo. He's not as good as gone. The new owner will be desperate to keep a marketable asset like him and I'd imagine he'll be offered a bumper new deal by whoever takes over. They only silver lining as far as Owen is concerned is that the window has just shut, and we have 4 months to sort this clusterfuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris1210 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 This is perhaps the biggest travesty of this latest shambolic offering. We have all but lost our best player by a country-mile. I don't believe he will sign irrelevent of who buys or who manages now - the lad is essentially at the peak of his career, seems to have to an extent, put his injury woes behind him, and would rightfully want to see his career go out on a bang in the last few years. Unfortunately the club is not in the position to give him that opportunity - so in the same way I would've understood Given moving on, i can see why Owen would pack his bags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 He was class on saturday. Really looked like he cared. If he goes, we WONT get anyone better than him its as simple as that, thats why we should pull out all the stops to keep him. That ship has sailed. He's as good as gone. And tmonkey I'm not just talking about the hull game, he's a class apart all the time imo. He's certainly a higher calibre player than most of our squad, but then we know we dont have a squad full of good players - and ignoring the fact that its far too early to judge, Gutierrez hasn't looked too far off in terms of quality, his opening game performance against ManU was significantly better than any Owen has had for us against a top side. Owen is a quality player to have because he has the ability to be the difference between us and a mid table or lower side - although in all honesty, more often than not he seems to be that "difference" when he's coming off the bench, whereas he's usually nearly that difference when he starts. Above that level of opposition, im not so sure Owen is really that good a player to make an impact against better sides. For example, against a team full of classy young players like Arsenal, Owen along with the rest of our team (bar Gutierrez - again) looked distinctly a calibre below what Arsenal had out there, in terms of their all round ability anyway. Hence, I dont agree that he's someone we'll not better for a long time - hopefully we'll sort things out by next season and start building from there, and the truth is that there are alot of players of Owen's calibre dotted around world football, we just need to be lucky or well equipped enough to sign some of them. We've moved on from better players in the past certainly - considerably better ones in fact if we're looking at purely contribution to our club on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Michael Owen will leave on a free. Something he's been planning on doing for a while anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Michael Owen will leave on a free. Something he's been planning on doing for a while anyway. ah for sure. Did you ask himself or did you just guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 He'll be offered megabucks by zabeel along with promises of new signings and he'll stay and say it was his intention all along Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 He'll be offered megabucks by zabeel along with promises of new signings and he'll stay and say it was his intention all along *crosses fingers* although i do see him walking for free like, hope not though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 He didn't want to come here in the first place, so no-one should be surprised at his reluctance to sign again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Exactly there is a reason he wanted a release cause in his contract that meant his buy out went down 25% a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It is a shame because I think Keegan had him won over and he wanted to stay but the way the Club has treated him in the last few months is appalling. Hawking him around whilst saying they have offered him a contract to cover their backs plus what has happened in the last fortnight. I imagine he cannot wait to be away now and I wouldn't blame him - unless of course we manage to sell the club to someone who can afford his wages, bring in a top manager and buy some players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 although its not saying much, he was our best player against hull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I reckon Owen's dithering over a contract is one of the main contributory factors to the mess we're in at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I reckon Owen's dithering over a contract is one of the main contributory factors to the mess we're in at the moment. Dithering? Until recently the club never offered him anything to dither over as far as I'm aware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I reckon Owen's dithering over a contract is one of the main contributory factors to the mess we're in at the moment. Dithering? Until recently the club never offered him anything to dither over as far as I'm aware. Wasn't it released that we'd offered him an improved deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Didn't realise it was that recent to be fair. Does anyone believe the rumours of him being offered a massive wage cut that were doing the rounds throughout the transfer window btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Owen's fault mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I reckon Owen's dithering over a contract is one of the main contributory factors to the mess we're in at the moment. Of all the stick he's received since he's joined, that pretty much tops the lot. What a steaming hot pile of wanksplat man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Whether "dithering" is the right word or not, I can imagine a scenario whereby Keegan publicly tieing himself to the hope that Owen should stay, come what may, strengthens Owen's bargaining position to the point that Ashley can't make what he considers to be a satisfactory deal, gives up, tries to sell the player while he can still get something for him, and thus pisses Keegan off. Or else Owen did indeed just dither until they were at the point where Ashley had his last chance of selling him. It's no odds to Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Whether "dithering" is the right word or not, I can imagine a scenario whereby Keegan publicly tieing himself to the hope that Owen should stay, come what may, strengthens Owen's bargaining position to the point that Ashley can't make what he considers to be a satisfactory deal, gives up, tries to sell the player while he can still get something for him, and thus pisses Keegan off. Or else Owen did indeed just dither until they were at the point where Ashley had his last chance of selling him. It's no odds to Owen. In which case, thank f*ck Keegan went. It's rubbish. He's got nowt to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I highly doubt he's been dithering, he's never wanted to sign the contract, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Theres no way we know what Owens thinking,its all guess work.Hes either holding out for a big contract which was probably the case when Keegan was here but now I would say hes playing for a contract with another club.Hard to know really, I am desperate for us to hold on to him though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Will be nothing short of furious and fucking GUTTED if we lose Owen, right there and then we would go from a club that wants to be in Europe to mid table fodder, why? Simple, we wouldnt replace him, we wouldnt have anyone of such quality left here and our results would change dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 we need him and he's very very good at putting the ball in the net but how people overrate him, honestly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 we need him and he's very very good at putting the ball in the net but how people overrate him, honestly You say overrate, but tell me who else at the club can score goals like Owen can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 we need him and he's very very good at putting the ball in the net but how people overrate him, honestly You say overrate, but tell me who else at the club can score goals like Owen can? well mate, for a start, how does the performance of our other strikers relate to Owen's ability? as for your question, Viduka is basically a 1 in 2 man when fit, the rest cant really compete just yet although Martins and Xisco are well on the way (like Xisco a lot, saw him a bit last season) Owen is our best goalscorer but that doesn't make him a world class footballer, far from it. He isn't even a world class goalscorer really, not when you look at the records of certain players. Remember, cousin Michael has never hit the big 20 in a campaign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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