afar Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 not a chance would i take 17th. this thread will be bumped when we get our key players back and everyone will look stupid Not particuarily because if you read the question the thread poses, it says would you take 17th right now. All I wanted to do was to see what people thought our ambition for the season should be during this crisis. For me that was and still is survival, we for sure can't be expecting a challenge for Europe or even mid tible at this point in time. So to conclude I don't think anyone that posted that they would take 17th would look stupid if things start to turn around and at this moment in time IF is an extremely big word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ovesbar Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Would take 17th if that meant that the season was over, and we had 3 months to sort out this mess.. The only thing keeping me going these days is Tottenham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Right now, I would love to guarantee first place. Hopefully I won't still be saying that at Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 not a chance would i take 17th. this thread will be bumped when we get our key players back and everyone will look stupid Not particuarily because if you read the question the thread poses, it says would you take 17th right now. All I wanted to do was to see what people thought our ambition for the season should be during this crisis. For me that was and still is survival, we for sure can't be expecting a challenge for Europe or even mid tible at this point in time. So to conclude I don't think anyone that posted that they would take 17th would look stupid if things start to turn around and at this moment in time IF is an extremely big word. although i agree with your sentiments, i think most people who are saying yes are probably the kneejerkers that become stereotype. personally, i thought wed finish 8th at the start of the season, im now going to go for 12th or 13th. i think some people are assuming that every match for the rest of the season is going to be like the previous few, but arent thinking rationally, as we are all a bit down with the current situation, myself included Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 not a chance would i take 17th. this thread will be bumped when we get our key players back and everyone will look stupid Not particuarily because if you read the question the thread poses, it says would you take 17th right now. All I wanted to do was to see what people thought our ambition for the season should be during this crisis. For me that was and still is survival, we for sure can't be expecting a challenge for Europe or even mid tible at this point in time. So to conclude I don't think anyone that posted that they would take 17th would look stupid if things start to turn around and at this moment in time IF is an extremely big word. although i agree with your sentiments, i think most people who are saying yes are probably the kneejerkers that become stereotype. personally, i thought wed finish 8th at the start of the season, im now going to go for 12th or 13th. i think some people are assuming that every match for the rest of the season is going to be like the previous few, but arent thinking rationally, as we are all a bit down with the current situation, myself included Your comment about 'knee-jerkers' is so far off the mark - it indicates to me that you haven't actually witnessed a relegation campaign ; how do you know that those who would take 17th now haven't seen a relegation side and know what one looks like ? I HAVE, on 2 occasions, and believe me, this side is showing ALL the signs - it will take a monumental effort by all concerned(even after any takeover)to prevent the club staying in the relegation zone. To make matters worse, none of the promoted sides look as bad as Derby last season, so there are definitely 3 places to be filled, not 2. I reckon WBA will climb away from trouble, Stoke will get a number of wins at home via their very physical approach and system(which seems to work for them),and Hull are building up confidence after a good start which will keep them going. Of the 3 promoted sides, I reckon WBA are the best bet to stay in the Prem and improve as time goes on. If the other 2 keep picking up results and DON'T go into a losing streak as NUFC have done, they will be very hard to catch ; and we can't strengthen the team until Jan - even then, its very difficult to get really good players as clubs want to keep them either to stay within touching distance of winning something, OR to avoid relegation....IT'S A TOUGH JOB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 not a chance would i take 17th. this thread will be bumped when we get our key players back and everyone will look stupid Not particuarily because if you read the question the thread poses, it says would you take 17th right now. All I wanted to do was to see what people thought our ambition for the season should be during this crisis. For me that was and still is survival, we for sure can't be expecting a challenge for Europe or even mid tible at this point in time. So to conclude I don't think anyone that posted that they would take 17th would look stupid if things start to turn around and at this moment in time IF is an extremely big word. although i agree with your sentiments, i think most people who are saying yes are probably the kneejerkers that become stereotype. personally, i thought wed finish 8th at the start of the season, im now going to go for 12th or 13th. i think some people are assuming that every match for the rest of the season is going to be like the previous few, but arent thinking rationally, as we are all a bit down with the current situation, myself included Your comment about 'knee-jerkers' is so far off the mark - it indicates to me that you haven't actually witnessed a relegation campaign ; how do you know that those who would take 17th now haven't seen a relegation side and know what one looks like ? I HAVE, on 2 occasions, and believe me, this side is showing ALL the signs - it will take a monumental effort by all concerned(even after any takeover)to prevent the club staying in the relegation zone. To make matters worse, none of the promoted sides look as bad as Derby last season, so there are definitely 3 places to be filled, not 2. I reckon WBA will climb away from trouble, Stoke will get a number of wins at home via their very physical approach and system(which seems to work for them),and Hull are building up confidence after a good start which will keep them going. Of the 3 promoted sides, I reckon WBA are the best bet to stay in the Prem and improve as time goes on. If the other 2 keep picking up results and DON'T go into a losing streak as NUFC have done, they will be very hard to catch ; and we can't strengthen the team until Jan - even then, its very difficult to get really good players as clubs want to keep them either to stay within touching distance of winning something, OR to avoid relegation....IT'S A TOUGH JOB. unfortunately you are right. And that [in bold] also relates to those who have seen a shite board, and saw the early signs too. Others haven't seen it because they were younger lads, and others buried their heads in the sand. Its the same thing, and it was never patronising to say so, it was an observation and nothing else. This club is at the moment, looking like its heading the way of 1978 as almost a mirror image, more than a few good players, too good to go down, but a club with unhappy players, lacking direction, leadership, lacking faith in the club and a lack of confidence which will only get worse unless changes are made and fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Anyone around who wouldnt snap someone's arm off if 17th was offered to us this afternoon ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Anyone around who wouldnt snap someone's arm off if 17th was offered to us this afternoon ? Nope. We are going down in my opinion. Carrying on like this until November is going to destroy the club beyond repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Anyone around who wouldnt snap someone's arm off if 17th was offered to us this afternoon ? Nope. We are going down in my opinion. Carrying on like this until November is going to destroy the club beyond repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 No chance of surviving the drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 No chance of surviving the drop. Agreed, we should tender our resignation from the league right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 No chance of surviving the drop. Agreed, we should tender our resignation from the league right now a-ha-ha-ha-ha fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Yes. Another waste of a season. Will take 17th now if ownership issue drags on. Try this poll again when we have a new Mgmt team in place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 No chance of surviving the drop. Agreed, we should tender our resignation from the league right now a-ha-ha-ha-ha fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Yes i would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 No chance of surviving the drop. Agreed, we should tender our resignation from the league right now a-ha-ha-ha-ha fuck off double Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 so, after that spirited fightback are you all so 100% certain that we are down, that there is no hope, no saving us, and the nail is already in the coffin? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I still don't think we are going down and still think we will do better than 17th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 so, after that spirited fightback are you all so 100% certain that we are down, that there is no hope, no saving us, and the nail is already in the coffin? I can see how easy is it to think otherwise after a good fightback today but I still feel we are doomed. Man City next so a defeat to them would sharp wash away the optimism thats been found today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 On present showing, of course, we're destined for the drop. But things could be radically different and far more promising in just one month's time. It's not going to be a pleasant experience this season, of course not, but I think there's enough fuel in the tank to get us to safety in good time for the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 so, after that spirited fightback are you all so 100% certain that we are down, that there is no hope, no saving us, and the nail is already in the coffin? We're still in the bottom three and only Stoke and Spurs look worse than us and Spurs have more quality. So yes we are still fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 OH FUCKING HELL AYE I WOULD TAKE IT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Well we are bottom of the league now Sky telling us as Bolton are beating Man city Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Still no. I want to be above the mackems at 10pm tomorrow too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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