Syrette Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Here is a radio interview with Daily Mirror 'journalist' Simon Bird about the 'attack'. I have to say, Simon Bird comes across as a typical 'butter wouldn't melt in my mouth' cunt, like he's trying to deny that him and his press colleagues are cunts: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7650281.stm All journalists use the excuse 'I didn't write the headline' when defending their 'stories'. Why don't they have the balls to say to the editor "but that headline isn't true/is misleading/is sensationalist bullshit"? To be fair, that's simply not how it works. They probably don't see the headlines until they see the paper. Pretty much. They submit their copy, and immediately move on to the next story. The editor is entitled to do what he wants with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Synthespian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Oops. Sorry, just noticed, but I didn't spot the other thread. At least this "headline" is clear and what it's regarding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Synthespian Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Here is a radio interview with Daily Mirror 'journalist' Simon Bird about the 'attack'. I have to say, Simon Bird comes across as a typical 'butter wouldn't melt in my mouth' c***, like he's trying to deny that him and his press colleagues are c***s: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7650281.stm All journalists use the excuse 'I didn't write the headline' when defending their 'stories'. Why don't they have the balls to say to the editor "but that headline isn't true/is misleading/is sensationalist bullshit"? To be fair, that's simply not how it works. They probably don't see the headlines until they see the paper. Pretty much. They submit their copy, and immediately move on to the next story. The editor is entitled to do what he wants with it.So can we string the editor(s) up? Someone's going for the sensationalism. It still wouldn't explain the final part about the extra few words after the "bollocks" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Aye, but if journalists work for papers like the Mirror then they have to take some part of the responsibility for all the shit it prints. No man is an island. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Here is a radio interview with Daily Mirror 'journalist' Simon Bird about the 'attack'. I have to say, Simon Bird comes across as a typical 'butter wouldn't melt in my mouth' cunt, like he's trying to deny that him and his press colleagues are cunts: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7650281.stm All journalists use the excuse 'I didn't write the headline' when defending their 'stories'. Why don't they have the balls to say to the editor "but that headline isn't true/is misleading/is sensationalist bullshit"? To be fair, that's simply not how it works. They probably don't see the headlines until they see the paper. Pretty much. They submit their copy, and immediately move on to the next story. The editor is entitled to do what he wants with it. So their Editors are twats (no surprise there). The journalists stories are excrement 99.9% of the time (Just see the "The Media: 'We Hate Newcastle United' thread"). The headline usually just tops them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 haha legendary interview! now I remember what I liked about joe back in the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I am really liking Joe Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I actually think there is a lot more to this than would appear, JK having a go at the press. TBH it's not been as bad as JK is implying. Where I think he is being very clever is trying to a) get the fans on his side, standing up to the press is an excellent way of doing that, just look at the respect he's gotten in this thread b) respect from the players, they hate journos and if they see there boss having a real go at them, they'll know he's in their corner and be prepared to fight for him c) creating an "us against the world" mentality, like he had a Wimbledon. The interview is fanstatic entertainment but at the same time extremely clever of Kinnear, I think he's gone about things exactly the right way so far, good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Glad someone has finally told the press where to go but how naive was he to do that? Fuel to the fire, all it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Embarrassing tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Joe's middle name is obviously 'Fuc' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Glad someone has finally told the press where to go but how naive was he to do that? Fuel to the fire, all it is. Well sometimes you just have to do whats right, regardless. A key point he made was that from now on he'll be talking to the 2 local papers (assuming thats the journal and the chron) and the supporters, nobody else. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Glad someone has finally told the press where to go but how naive was he to do that? Fuel to the fire, all it is. Yeah but it's Kinnear's fire. He's taken the focus off the team's lousy play and put a lot of it on him. And as afar has said, he's gambling that he can use this to bring his squad together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 its like mike bassett is in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 its like mike bassett is in charge hehehe i was just thinking about his half time team talk. in the spin off he'd managed newcastle but got them relegated in successive season iirc too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 what a guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 full audio version http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/10/03/audio-hear-joe-kinnear-s-full-unbleeped-uncensored-rant-at-mirror-man-simon-bird-115875-20770121/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgs Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 i like joe kinnear for this. betfred now have odds on him swearing at everton :laugh: :laugh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 There's a slightly longer version from the Telegraph, here.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/3124831/Joe-Kinnear-press-conference-transcript-Football.html It expands on the meeting Ashley stuff, and then Kinnear comments on the 'Morcambe and Wise' headlines when he was appointed. Perhaps he could have done it with a bit more tact, and with a few less expletives, but I think its great that someone working for Newcastle United is tackling these journalists about their reporting. But hell, it is funny that he straight out calls the first guy a c**t!!!! mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooonDoom Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Love it. Keep it coming JFK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I actually enjoyed that - certainly more than the football this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I actually think there is a lot more to this than would appear, JK having a go at the press. TBH it's not been as bad as JK is implying. Where I think he is being very clever is trying to a) get the fans on his side, standing up to the press is an excellent way of doing that, just look at the respect he's gotten in this thread b) respect from the players, they hate journos and if they see there boss having a real go at them, they'll know he's in their corner and be prepared to fight for him c) creating an "us against the world" mentality, like he had a Wimbledon. The interview is fanstatic entertainment but at the same time extremely clever of Kinnear, I think he's gone about things exactly the right way so far, good on him. I'd go along with that. I wouldn't be too surprised if the whole thing was orchestrated by a certain 'fat cockney'. Clever, though. Very entertaining too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Atleast someone has the balls to lash back at them... He's gone up in my estimation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 F-words: 36, C-words: 4, B-words: 6. Total: 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 So Joe, you're a crap manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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