Michael Owen gets injured; rejoice!

[midds]

If that's accurate then the only clubs able to match that are the top 4 or City. He'll not get a better offer than that imo.

 

Still not sure he'll sign it like.  

 

i could see Villa or Spurs matching it too (along with ambitious nouveau-riche like wigan or sunderland but he wouldnt go there), primarily because he'd be arriving on a free and they could factor in money saved in transfer fees to add an extra £20,000 or so a week on his wages.

 

Possibly?

 

Not sure if O'Neill would be happy to sanction a £90k a week player. Might turn a few others a bit green?

Also not sure if Spurs have any sort of wage structure in place or not. Redknapp is the type of manager who isn't afraid to splash out a bit on wages though.

 

We'll have to see I suppose. 

[Rich]

It's a very large offer, but he'd be mental to not wait and talk to other clubs in January at the very least.

 

He can't talk to other Premiership clubs until the end of the season iirc.

 

No, he can talk to other clubs when there is six months left on his contract.

Olof Mellberg had signed a pre-contract with Juve in early January last year, yet played on for Villa until the end of the season.

 

Note the "Premiership clubs" bit mate. He can talk to clubs abroad, but not in England (until around May 21st - 6 weeks before his contract is up).

[Pilko]

It's a very large offer, but he'd be mental to not wait and talk to other clubs in January at the very least.

 

He can't talk to other Premiership clubs until the end of the season iirc.

 

No, he can talk to other clubs when there is six months left on his contract.

Olof Mellberg had signed a pre-contract with Juve in early January last year, yet played on for Villa until the end of the season.

 

Note the "Premiership clubs" bit mate. He can talk to clubs abroad, but not in England (until around May 18th - 6 weeks before his contract is up).

 

Ah, is that right. My bad.

[Guest toonlass]

If that's accurate then the only clubs able to match that are the top 4 or City. He'll not get a better offer than that imo.

 

Still not sure he'll sign it like.  

 

i could see Villa or Spurs matching it too (along with ambitious nouveau-riche like wigan or sunderland but he wouldnt go there), primarily because he'd be arriving on a free and they could factor in money saved in transfer fees to add an extra £20,000 or so a week on his wages.

 

Spurs have a wage cap though so he won't be going there.

[johnnypd]

If that's accurate then the only clubs able to match that are the top 4 or City. He'll not get a better offer than that imo.

 

Still not sure he'll sign it like.  

 

i could see Villa or Spurs matching it too (along with ambitious nouveau-riche like wigan or sunderland but he wouldnt go there), primarily because he'd be arriving on a free and they could factor in money saved in transfer fees to add an extra £20,000 or so a week on his wages.

 

Spurs have a wage cap though so he won't be going there.

 

i expect that had a lot to do with their old structure though and that it'll be up to redknapp if they make an exception or not. could definitely see spurs going for him because of the manager and because they still need proper strikers.

[Rich]

In the last six months of his contract a player is entitled to speak to clubs outwith the jurisdiction of his club's national association about a Player Contract and may, in this way, enter a "pre-nuptial" agreement with a new club. When his contract expires a player is free to speak to any club.

[Dave]

It's a very large offer, but he'd be mental to not wait and talk to other clubs in January at the very least.

 

He can't talk to other Premiership clubs until the end of the season iirc.

 

Ah, can never remember the rule. Caulkin is wrong too then.

[johnnypd]

i'm sure there's ways to negotiate the rules. i mean, i doubt Jonas bought himself out of his contract without knowing there was specific clubs waiting to sign him.

 

didnt the club offer him a contract in late august? they went about it in an arsey way and iirc the press seemed to suggest it was made up of clauses and conditions rather than a flat weekly wage.

[WhatTheFunk]

what a f***ing divvy Louise Taylor is.  Honest.  Its obscene that she's allowed a national platform to voice her backwards, soiled, neanderthalic views about our club, our city, our people.  Its bitterness to the f***ing core.  Every f***ing time she sits her fat arse down at her "sewpa dewpa compewta" bought from Cash Converters it seems like she can't rattle her miniscule brain for a more constructive story or argument than to have a pop at Newcastle.  The majority of those in the land that soap forgot don't have the ability to understand the deictics of a broadsheet newspaper.  So who the f*** she's trying to impress I don't f***ing know.

 

Can we boycoutt the Guardian? (imo its s**** anyway)

 

I'm honestly tempted to set up a Facebook group for the craic.

 

Do it, I'll be the first to join.

 

somebody just throw a shoe at the bitch

[Guest BooBoo]

I think he'll stay and sign the deal.

 

If his kids are in local schools, i wouldnt have thought he would really want to uproot them just yet. Cos anyone who watched "A Year in the Life of Michael Owen" will realise just what a big family man he is. :-D

[Rich]

I think he'll stay and sign the deal.

 

If his kids are in local schools, i wouldnt have thought he would really want to uproot them just yet. Cos anyone who watched "A Year in the Life of Michael Owen" will realise just what a big family man he is. :-D

 

Anyone who watched that programme will realise his family still lives in Chester, surely?

[Baggio]

Michael Owen will not sign a new contract at Newcastle United before the January transfer window even though the package offered to the striker this week was more generous than expected.

 

Although it has been widely reported that Owen was presented on Monday with a three-year contract on a basic wage of £80,000 a week, the Newcastle hierarchy is willing to pay its leading player up to £90,000 a week for the next four years. That sum still represents a £15,000-a-week pay cut when compared to his current deal, which expires at the end of the season, but is a concerted attempt to keep the 29-year-old at St James' Park.

 

It is an improvement on the one-year, £80,000-a-week extension he was loosely offered in the summer before the former manager, Kevin Keegan, quit in September. However, although the offer is a generous one in the present financial climate and is thought to be considerably more than one of his suitors, Everton, are able to pay, Owen remains keen to see what other bids are made in January when he is able to open negotiations with rival clubs ahead of a Bosman free transfer in June.

 

Everton have a wage structure in place which means their highest earner is on roughly £50,000 a week. Although their manager, David Moyes, may be able to increase that figure as he does not have to pay a transfer fee for the striker, Owen hopes there will be bigger packages on the table if he keeps his options open in the new year.

 

While another potential bidder, Tottenham Hotspur, will also struggle to match the money on offer at Newcastle, Manchester City are believed to have shown an interest and Owen knows his wage demands would not be a stumbling block at Eastlands.

 

A planned meeting between Owen and the Newcastle manager, Joe Kinnear, did not take place yesterday, but the two are expected to discuss the issue informally at the club's training ground later today.

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/16/premierleague-newcastle-michaelowen-contract

[Kaizero]

I think he'll stay and sign the deal.

 

If his kids are in local schools, i wouldnt have thought he would really want to uproot them just yet. Cos anyone who watched "A Year in the Life of Michael Owen" will realise just what a big family man he is. :-D

 

Isn't his family living in Wales or something though?

[Dave]

Michael Owen will not sign a new contract at Newcastle United before the January transfer window even though the package offered to the striker this week was more generous than expected.

 

Although it has been widely reported that Owen was presented on Monday with a three-year contract on a basic wage of £80,000 a week, the Newcastle hierarchy is willing to pay its leading player up to £90,000 a week for the next four years. That sum still represents a £15,000-a-week pay cut when compared to his current deal, which expires at the end of the season, but is a concerted attempt to keep the 29-year-old at St James' Park.

 

It is an improvement on the one-year, £80,000-a-week extension he was loosely offered in the summer before the former manager, Kevin Keegan, quit in September. However, although the offer is a generous one in the present financial climate and is thought to be considerably more than one of his suitors, Everton, are able to pay, Owen remains keen to see what other bids are made in January when he is able to open negotiations with rival clubs ahead of a Bosman free transfer in June.

 

Everton have a wage structure in place which means their highest earner is on roughly £50,000 a week. Although their manager, David Moyes, may be able to increase that figure as he does not have to pay a transfer fee for the striker, Owen hopes there will be bigger packages on the table if he keeps his options open in the new year.

 

While another potential bidder, Tottenham Hotspur, will also struggle to match the money on offer at Newcastle, Manchester City are believed to have shown an interest and Owen knows his wage demands would not be a stumbling block at Eastlands.

 

A planned meeting between Owen and the Newcastle manager, Joe Kinnear, did not take place yesterday, but the two are expected to discuss the issue informally at the club's training ground later today.

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/16/premierleague-newcastle-michaelowen-contract

 

And again.

[fredbob]

Man City or Liverpool will be our only competition in the Prem, still think theres a very good chance of him signing for us.

[ShearMagic]

It's quite hilarious that these media outlets keep getting the rules wrong.

 

Anyone who plays Football Manager clearly knows the correct ones

[mattypnufc]

Michael Owen will not sign a new contract at Newcastle United before the January transfer window even though the package offered to the striker this week was more generous than expected.

 

Although it has been widely reported that Owen was presented on Monday with a three-year contract on a basic wage of £80,000 a week, the Newcastle hierarchy is willing to pay its leading player up to £90,000 a week for the next four years. That sum still represents a £15,000-a-week pay cut when compared to his current deal, which expires at the end of the season, but is a concerted attempt to keep the 29-year-old at St James' Park.

 

It is an improvement on the one-year, £80,000-a-week extension he was loosely offered in the summer before the former manager, Kevin Keegan, quit in September. However, although the offer is a generous one in the present financial climate and is thought to be considerably more than one of his suitors, Everton, are able to pay, Owen remains keen to see what other bids are made in January when he is able to open negotiations with rival clubs ahead of a Bosman free transfer in June.

 

Everton have a wage structure in place which means their highest earner is on roughly £50,000 a week. Although their manager, David Moyes, may be able to increase that figure as he does not have to pay a transfer fee for the striker, Owen hopes there will be bigger packages on the table if he keeps his options open in the new year.

 

While another potential bidder, Tottenham Hotspur, will also struggle to match the money on offer at Newcastle, Manchester City are believed to have shown an interest and Owen knows his wage demands would not be a stumbling block at Eastlands.

 

A planned meeting between Owen and the Newcastle manager, Joe Kinnear, did not take place yesterday, but the two are expected to discuss the issue informally at the club's training ground later today.

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/16/premierleague-newcastle-michaelowen-contract

 

Louise "Fuck me I aint been touched by a cock in the last 10 years" Taylor?

[KaKa]

Massive offer from the club and I can hardly believe it. I think it's a great sign in general.

 

If we (current ownership and the fans) can just agree huge mistakes have been made, which hopefully we have all learned from, and we can just now move forward now it would be great.

 

Mike Ashley just needs to keep on moving forward now with his initial vision and continue to build up the team as he initially wanted to.

[Baggio]

The unpredictable nature of Mike Ashley's ownership of Newcastle United was revealed again yesterday when Michael Owen received a four-year contract offer – not three years as has been reported – and at a salary believed to be around £90,000 per week, not £80,000.

 

That is still a pay cut from Owen's present contract but nonetheless represents a commitment of £18m over four years to the 29-year-old striker. Add it to Joe Kinnear's recent statement that he has been given assurances of spending at least £12m in January and Ashley's regime could be considered to have a long-term plan as well as a desire to sell up.

 

Senior figures at St James' Park are understood to have begun to speak about "next season" in operational matters and with Ashley admitting at the weekend that he has received no credible bid for the club, it seems he has been forced to produce a financial strategy for 2009 and 2010.

 

There is also a growing belief that Ashley will return to St James' on a matchday soon and take up a seat in the directors' box. But there is no plan to rejoin fans in the Newcastle end at away games.

 

There is still silence from Ashley and from the managing director Derek Llambias but a statement of intent, allied to new signings, would help create an atmosphere of possible acceptance among Newcastle supporters.

 

With January approaching, Kinnear needs to get some guarantees about players' futures. Owen is only one of them. It is not known if he will sign the deal he has been presented with but Newcastle appear to have made a staggering offer, one that his advisors will do well to replicate or better elsewhere.

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/owen-offered-fouryear-deal-as-ashley-invests-1192631.html

[Decky]

I could see Villa matching 90k a week no prob if it meant no transfer fee

[NE5]

The unpredictable nature of Mike Ashley's ownership of Newcastle United was revealed again yesterday when Michael Owen received a four-year contract offer – not three years as has been reported – and at a salary believed to be around £90,000 per week, not £80,000.

 

That is still a pay cut from Owen's present contract but nonetheless represents a commitment of £18m over four years to the 29-year-old striker. Add it to Joe Kinnear's recent statement that he has been given assurances of spending at least £12m in January and Ashley's regime could be considered to have a long-term plan as well as a desire to sell up.

 

Senior figures at St James' Park are understood to have begun to speak about "next season" in operational matters and with Ashley admitting at the weekend that he has received no credible bid for the club, it seems he has been forced to produce a financial strategy for 2009 and 2010.

 

There is also a growing belief that Ashley will return to St James' on a matchday soon and take up a seat in the directors' box. But there is no plan to rejoin fans in the Newcastle end at away games.

 

There is still silence from Ashley and from the managing director Derek Llambias but a statement of intent, allied to new signings, would help create an atmosphere of possible acceptance among Newcastle supporters.

 

With January approaching, Kinnear needs to get some guarantees about players' futures. Owen is only one of them. It is not known if he will sign the deal he has been presented with but Newcastle appear to have made a staggering offer, one that his advisors will do well to replicate or better elsewhere.

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/owen-offered-fouryear-deal-as-ashley-invests-1192631.html

 

I take it that you - and numerous others - are now prepared to accept that these so called despicable "trophy signings" are in fact the way to go, in view of the ridicule heaped on them in the past ? The desperation to keep a player who has previously carried this label would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

 

Just a general comment like, and a sensible reply with an acceptance of the fact that you got it all wrong, would be in order.

 

Fancy realising we need to keep our best players, and pay the going rate ? Whatever next, Ashley might realise similar calibre players alongside him would be even better, that is if it isn't too late to persuade Owen to sign for a club that he believes may have some sort of ambition and be worth extending for ?

 

 

[Mick]

We've got a new higher rate tax band starting in 2011, we'd have a better chance of keeping him if we change the way he's paid and pay higher now reducing as his contract runs down.  We should look at paying him at a higher rate in the first two years when he'll be more effective anyway and drop it down for the second 2 years.

[madras]

The unpredictable nature of Mike Ashley's ownership of Newcastle United was revealed again yesterday when Michael Owen received a four-year contract offer – not three years as has been reported – and at a salary believed to be around £90,000 per week, not £80,000.

 

That is still a pay cut from Owen's present contract but nonetheless represents a commitment of £18m over four years to the 29-year-old striker. Add it to Joe Kinnear's recent statement that he has been given assurances of spending at least £12m in January and Ashley's regime could be considered to have a long-term plan as well as a desire to sell up.

 

Senior figures at St James' Park are understood to have begun to speak about "next season" in operational matters and with Ashley admitting at the weekend that he has received no credible bid for the club, it seems he has been forced to produce a financial strategy for 2009 and 2010.

 

There is also a growing belief that Ashley will return to St James' on a matchday soon and take up a seat in the directors' box. But there is no plan to rejoin fans in the Newcastle end at away games.

 

There is still silence from Ashley and from the managing director Derek Llambias but a statement of intent, allied to new signings, would help create an atmosphere of possible acceptance among Newcastle supporters.

 

With January approaching, Kinnear needs to get some guarantees about players' futures. Owen is only one of them. It is not known if he will sign the deal he has been presented with but Newcastle appear to have made a staggering offer, one that his advisors will do well to replicate or better elsewhere.

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/owen-offered-fouryear-deal-as-ashley-invests-1192631.html

 

I take it that you - and numerous others - are now prepared to accept that these so called despicable "trophy signings" are in fact the way to go, in view of the ridicule heaped on them in the past ? The desperation to keep a player who has previously carried this label would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

 

Just a general comment like, and a sensible reply with an acceptance of the fact that you got it all wrong, would be in order.

 

Fancy realising we need to keep our best players, and pay the going rate ? Whatever next, Ashley might realise similar calibre players alongside him would be even better, that is if it isn't too late to persuade Owen to sign for a club that he believes may have some sort of ambition and be worth extending for ?

 

 

i reckon he'd shift out sharpish if souness,roeder or allardyce are appointed.

 

 

 

 

 

[NE5]

The unpredictable nature of Mike Ashley's ownership of Newcastle United was revealed again yesterday when Michael Owen received a four-year contract offer – not three years as has been reported – and at a salary believed to be around £90,000 per week, not £80,000.

 

That is still a pay cut from Owen's present contract but nonetheless represents a commitment of £18m over four years to the 29-year-old striker. Add it to Joe Kinnear's recent statement that he has been given assurances of spending at least £12m in January and Ashley's regime could be considered to have a long-term plan as well as a desire to sell up.

 

Senior figures at St James' Park are understood to have begun to speak about "next season" in operational matters and with Ashley admitting at the weekend that he has received no credible bid for the club, it seems he has been forced to produce a financial strategy for 2009 and 2010.

 

There is also a growing belief that Ashley will return to St James' on a matchday soon and take up a seat in the directors' box. But there is no plan to rejoin fans in the Newcastle end at away games.

 

There is still silence from Ashley and from the managing director Derek Llambias but a statement of intent, allied to new signings, would help create an atmosphere of possible acceptance among Newcastle supporters.

 

With January approaching, Kinnear needs to get some guarantees about players' futures. Owen is only one of them. It is not known if he will sign the deal he has been presented with but Newcastle appear to have made a staggering offer, one that his advisors will do well to replicate or better elsewhere.

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/owen-offered-fouryear-deal-as-ashley-invests-1192631.html

 

I take it that you - and numerous others - are now prepared to accept that these so called despicable "trophy signings" are in fact the way to go, in view of the ridicule heaped on them in the past ? The desperation to keep a player who has previously carried this label would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

 

Just a general comment like, and a sensible reply with an acceptance of the fact that you got it all wrong, would be in order.

 

Fancy realising we need to keep our best players, and pay the going rate ? Whatever next, Ashley might realise similar calibre players alongside him would be even better, that is if it isn't too late to persuade Owen to sign for a club that he believes may have some sort of ambition and be worth extending for ?

 

 

i reckon he'd shift out sharpish if souness,roeder or allardyce are appointed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

he signed when Souness was boss ...boom boom .........

 

 

[NE5]

We've got a new higher rate tax band starting in 2011, we'd have a better chance of keeping him if we change the way he's paid and pay higher now reducing as his contract runs down.  We should look at paying him at a higher rate in the first two years when he'll be more effective anyway and drop it down for the second 2 years.

 

what on earth are you on about ? Do you seriously think all this waffle will influence his decision  mackems.gif