Dyeyzzon Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 The difference in class between our back-up Striker and our main ones is just too huge to ignore tbh. Plus, after Best's sale, we're extremely short of actual out-and-out strikers in the first place. Hence, I'd advocate any striker signing we get, even if it is Carroll, but only for the right price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-were-going-to-build-1261154 David Sullivan has revealed the truth about West Ham's £17million bid to sign Andy Carroll. The Mirror revealed last month that the east Londoners were prepared to back Sam Allardyce by splashing out a staggering £100,000 a week to lure Liverpool striker Carroll to Upton Park. Sullivan has confirmed Big Sam was desperate to build his team for the new season around the England striker. The West Ham co-owner also admits Big Sam wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis - for whom the Hammers have had a £6million turned down - to provide the ammunition for Carroll. Sullivan said: "I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him. "Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play. "We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser. "We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up. "We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come. "But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. "But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that." Carroll has been tipped for a move back to hometown club Newcastle, but Sullivan said: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages. "This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?" Sullivan has since snapped up midfielder Alou Diarra for around £3million and admitted the funds earmarked for Carroll are now being used elsewhere. He added: "It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. "But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it. "Then there was a huge transfer fee which would have blown our budget for several years." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-were-going-to-build-1261154 David Sullivan has revealed the truth about West Ham's £17million bid to sign Andy Carroll. The Mirror revealed last month that the east Londoners were prepared to back Sam Allardyce by splashing out a staggering £100,000 a week to lure Liverpool striker Carroll to Upton Park. Sullivan has confirmed Big Sam was desperate to build his team for the new season around the England striker. The West Ham co-owner also admits Big Sam wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis - for whom the Hammers have had a £6million turned down - to provide the ammunition for Carroll. Sullivan said: "I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him. "Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play. "We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser. "We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up. "We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come. "But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. "But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that." Carroll has been tipped for a move back to hometown club Newcastle, but Sullivan said: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages. "This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?" Sullivan has since snapped up midfielder Alou Diarra for around £3million and admitted the funds earmarked for Carroll are now being used elsewhere. He added: "It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. "But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it. "Then there was a huge transfer fee which would have blown our budget for several years." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Such a fool, no place to be talking about that stuff. Obviously it's interesting for us but not exactly clever to put that out in the public domain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-were-going-to-build-1261154 "We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Gobshite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 What an amateur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 You'd think with all the clubs going bust and into administration all the time, he'd not 'blow the budget for several years' on one daft signing. The porn barons are such fucking morons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Remember Pardew said we were playing "fast paced, front foot football" last year? Still the best attempt at dressing up the long ball I've heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 should have paid Andy in smut, then he might've signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Remember Pardew said we were playing "fast paced, front foot football" last year? Still the best attempt at dressing up the long ball I've heard. i still deny we played anywhere near as much long ball as people try to make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-ham-were-going-to-build-1261154 David Sullivan has revealed the truth about West Ham's £17million bid to sign Andy Carroll. The Mirror revealed last month that the east Londoners were prepared to back Sam Allardyce by splashing out a staggering £100,000 a week to lure Liverpool striker Carroll to Upton Park. Sullivan has confirmed Big Sam was desperate to build his team for the new season around the England striker. The West Ham co-owner also admits Big Sam wanted Wolves winger Matt Jarvis - for whom the Hammers have had a £6million turned down - to provide the ammunition for Carroll. Sullivan said: "I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already. "My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him. "Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play. "We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses - quite exciting football, not just humping it but clever crossing - and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser. "We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up. "We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager - a man we had done a lot of business with - and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come. "But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances - coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side. "But it's wrong to discuss what is in his mind. Only he knows that." Carroll has been tipped for a move back to hometown club Newcastle, but Sullivan said: "We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn't even want to pay all of his wages. "This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?" Sullivan has since snapped up midfielder Alou Diarra for around £3million and admitted the funds earmarked for Carroll are now being used elsewhere. He added: "It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. "But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it. "Then there was a huge transfer fee which would have blown our budget for several years." Aye, righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Remember Pardew said we were playing "fast paced, front foot football" last year? Still the best attempt at dressing up the long ball I've heard. i still deny we played anywhere near as much long ball as people try to make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Allardyce suits west ham. Owner and manager, cunts in harmony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Basically Rodgers won't play him at all, Carroll will get fed up by the end of August then we'll sign him, probably on loan. Unless we sign another forward I'd be quite surprised if things didn't pan out exactly like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 He added: "It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous - too much for a club like ours. "But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it. "Then there was a huge transfer fee which would have blown our budget for several years." These quotes are quite possibly the most irresponsible things I have ever seen attrbuted to a board member of a Premier League club To be prepared to spunk away several years transfer bugdet on a player currently going through a period of inconsistant form and whose heart wouldn't truely be in the club is beyond belief Andy Carroll - 'Who else are you planning to bring in to help the club prosper in the top flight?' David Gold - 'Well Andy, once you sign on the dotted line we have many other top level players in pipe line ready to snap up after the Olympics in Brazil' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Not classy enough for the Olympic Stadium - Keep them well clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Sounds like Andy has learnt not to just follow the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Remember Pardew said we were playing "fast paced, front foot football" last year? Still the best attempt at dressing up the long ball I've heard. i still deny we played anywhere near as much long ball as people try to make out. Well if you ignore the long punts upfield from the defenders to the stikers head then you could deny whatever you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nowt wrong with throwing in the odd bit of "direct" football now and again just to mix things up. Much prefer playing out from the back personally but have no problem with the occasional direct approach if required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 The reason I have a problem with it, is our persistence in it when it clearly isn't working. It baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 You'll have no problems this season then Anita and Debuchy passingtastic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I'm confused. Are people saying our game is the long ball? Never heard/thought that before. Surely that would by-pass Cabaye/Ben Arfa/Cisse - fundamentals. I also reckon Carrol will be coming here on deadline day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Time yet to start looking for a striker on loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 If the club want to improve, we need to look for better options than Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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