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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll


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What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight.

 

Also, can they please make their minds up about whether Ashley's an idiot or an evil genius, he' can't be both, you know.

 

Finally, for those talking about lack of ambition. If we're lacking ambition, then what the fuck does that say about Liverpool who are getting rid of Fernando fucking Torres!!! :o and replacing him with Andy fucking Carroll!  :cheesy:

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Can't blame ashley or the club for this, they rejected everything thrown at them, and then andy throws in a transfer request.

 

I'm really gutted but £35m plus addons will be pretty handy at least, just scared how they'll spend it..

 

this.

 

Not this.

 

They did not reject the transfer

They did.

 

How ?

 

Before the muppet handed in his request.

 

They didnt reject a transfer, they held out for a higher price

 

That is you fitting things into your conspiracy theory.

 

That is basic common sense ffs. If someone has a massive amount of money coming in & is desperate for something you own, you dont accept the first offer they give you. Dont be simple.

 

They were silent all day & made no attempt to come out to state he wasnt for sale atall. They kept inviting offers, explain how they didnt.

 

They rejected a transfer, Carroll clearly tapped up by Liverpool put's in transfer request forcing Ashley's hand.  NUFC then accept the next bid, as they want to try to get replacement in ASAP.

 

You are Ashley's favourite fan. He must wish every Geordie was as naive as you are.

 

Aye, and I bet your one the people that believe ashley has made money while at NUFC.

 

Fact is Ashley showed some ambition by signing Ben Arfa this month when he didn't have to.

 

How much?

 

I'll transfer £100 to the server account right away if you can find proof. If you can't, you do it.

 

Well he bought the club for £125M.

 

Has take on £100M worth of debt and Loans.

 

Has put in £20M for each for the last 3 seasons.

 

What the fuck are you on about? Are you drunk?

 

£100 for you to find proof that I'm 'one of those people who believe that Ashley has made money at NUFC'.

 

Yes or no? If you can't, transfer £100 into the server account.

 

Is he drunk?  You're asking if he's drunk??

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Joey Barton's crosses made Carroll.

I agree. it was more of a barton caroll package.

 

Sky sports rekon he could get  up to 80 grand a week now at lfc.

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Don't care what anyone says, it is completely f***ing obvious to me that Ashely was always wanting to sell him. 35m pissed against the wall in one of his casinos no doubt, f*** off you prick. If the club had rejected the bids, he would of stayed.

 

I'm not sure that's true.

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How many times has the 'official line' been proven to be absolutely false, though? Ask yourself that, and then ask yourself how everyone involved in this whole transfer saga comes out smelling like roses to the people they want to smell like roses to, and surely you have to be somewhat suspicious. If you're not, like I said, you're incredibly naive.

 

I'll ask again, why would Carroll go along with it? Or is that too naive of a question for you to answer?

 

Money up front. Agent pressure. Who knows.

 

Exactly.

 

How come everyone is so eager to believe the official line in this story? Look at all the major things that have happened to this club over the past 3 years, look at the official line and tell me that it's been an accurate narrative of what actually transpired. Look at KK's firing. Look at the Milner shit. Look at Hughton's sacking. Look at Pardew's appointment. For fuck's sake, Golfmag had posted that it was planned for weeks in advance, yet the official line never mentioned it. Ashley might seem dumb but he's not.

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So what's everyone else at the club going to think about this?! We sell our young protégé, top english goalscorer, someone the team was meant to be built around... why is anyone going to want to sign a contract now, what's the point, we have no ambition. We have no resolve, our group doesn't matter?

 

Its basically saying to everyone at the club, 'we need you all, unless we can find a cheaper replacement and make some money off you. That club you thought Newcastle United was, doesn't exist any more'.

 

That felt heart-wrenching to read, mainly because it's all completely true.  :sadnod:

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Other things the tribunal cleared up are:

 

    * Keegan was never offered a chance to settle for £4m as reported in the press.

    * The club admitted at the tribunal that it intentionally misled the press, public and fans of Newcastle.

    * The club’s claim that Keegan used the Nacho incident as a ‘convenient excuse’ to walk out was not true.

 

 

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People blaming Carroll are just stupid and ignorant there are no other words to describe them. Well actually there are.......

 

If Ashley didn't want to sell him he wouldn't have. Atletico Madrid didn't want to sell Aguero so they didn't despite the Spuds rumoured 38M offer. If NUFC weren't prepared to sell Carroll I don't believe for one minute he would have left or wanted to leave.

 

On what? Proven, top quality players and the best youngsters (like Carroll) just wouldn't sign for us due to our lack of ambition, status our wage structure and geographical location. So we're left with either second rate or unproven players, most of who have every chance of ending up a surplus to requirements drain on the wage bill.

 

And this is key

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Now I know how my dad felt in the 80's when we were selling Gazza, Pedro and Waddle.

 

Absolutely sickening.

 

Funnily enough I have mentioned that in another thread & I really don't feel that sort of pain & upset over this deal compared to when them players left.

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Other things the tribunal cleared up are:

 

    * Keegan was never offered a chance to settle for £4m as reported in the press.

    * The club admitted at the tribunal that it intentionally misled the press, public and fans of Newcastle.

    * The clubs claim that Keegan used the Nacho incident as a convenient excuse to walk out was not true.

 

 

 

Quoting this for everyone who has eaten up the official line today.

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So what's everyone else at the club going to think about this?! We sell our young protégé, top english goalscorer, someone the team was meant to be built around... why is anyone going to want to sign a contract now, what's the point, we have no ambition. We have no resolve, our group doesn't matter?

 

Its basically saying to everyone at the club, 'we need you all, unless we can find a cheaper replacement and make some money off you. That club you thought Newcastle United was, doesn't exist any more'.

 

That felt heart-wrenching to read, mainly because it's all completely true.  :sadnod:

 

Well put & completely gutting

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Andy Carroll will be a great player for Liverpool and for England for the next 12 years.

 

God that hurts to say.

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