Greg Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Joe Kinnear was 'delighted' with our performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 An awful game between two wretched sides. The bright side being we never had the squad to cope with a large cup run anyway. Given- 6- Little to do, kicking was a bit off Edgar-5- Not up to it N'Zogbia-7- Best attacking threat Bassong-6- Did okay Collocini-5- Woeful distribution Guttierez- 5- Lots of running, no end product, as usual Duff-5- See above Guthrie-5- One of his worst performances in a Newcastle shirt Butt-4- Contributed nothing Owen- 5- One bad miss Xisco-5- One bad miss Carroll-6- Put himself about LuaLua-6- Some eyecatching runs Overall: Forget the cup, its not as if we would have won the bloody thing. The manner of the insipid performance, especially going forward was worrying though. Dark days ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'd love to smash Phil Brown's smug mackem face in with a cricket bat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I only watched the highlights and I made it two bad misses for Owen at least.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Going by the highlights there's no way we deserved to lose that game, as poor as we may have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Owen had at least 3 bad misses. The header, the one on one and the beating the offside trap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 How the hell did Owen not get 2 goals tonight? Was just thinking that. Fucking hell that Guthrie cross late on put it on a plate for him. I make it six gilt-edged chances over the two ties. Not fucking good enough. Sign of a side lacking in confidence more than anything else. Only one man is responsible for the apparent lack of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgs Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 xisco looked decent for a guy not match fit. showed a good bit of pace for a big man, and won the header they showed. better quality than shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 That guy on the sofa on ITV has the most annoying face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 How the hell did Owen not get 2 goals tonight? Was just thinking that. Fucking hell that Guthrie cross late on put it on a plate for him. I make it six gilt-edged chances over the two ties. Not fucking good enough. Sign of a side lacking in confidence more than anything else. Only one man is responsible for the apparent lack of it. Owen missing half a dozen great chances is because of the side lacking in confidence? Righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Michael Owen like most of the players at NUFC are not good enough, no heart and no fight. Defenders are hardly going to be scared of Owen no pace at all and contributes nothing unless someone creates something its pointless even having him on the pitch, even when we are creating things for him these days he is missing them! I honestly think Terry / Vidic etc would rather have to play against Owen than Martins / Carroll / Ameobi if we were not creating anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 How the hell did Owen not get 2 goals tonight? Was just thinking that. Fucking hell that Guthrie cross late on put it on a plate for him. I make it six gilt-edged chances over the two ties. Not fucking good enough. Sign of a side lacking in confidence more than anything else. Only one man is responsible for the apparent lack of it. Owen missing half a dozen great chances is because of the side lacking in confidence? Righto. Including himself. If he had the confidence he'd be banging them in. Think back to this time last year - what did Keegan say the problem was? Lack of confidence. Well he bought the confidence back, and this bunch of players looked top quality. New (good) manager equals more confidence equals better performances equals better results. At the end of the day, the board have two responsibilities - managerial appointments and investment, and they need to sort the former out first, as he's not going to get the players playing above 50% their best, making any investment in new personnel completely pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 How the hell did Owen not get 2 goals tonight? Was just thinking that. Fucking hell that Guthrie cross late on put it on a plate for him. I make it six gilt-edged chances over the two ties. Not fucking good enough. Sign of a side lacking in confidence more than anything else. Only one man is responsible for the apparent lack of it. Owen missing half a dozen great chances is because of the side lacking in confidence? Righto. Including himself. If he had the confidence he'd be banging them in. Think back to this time last year - what did Keegan say the problem was? Lack of confidence. Well he bought the confidence back, and this bunch of players looked top quality. New (good) manager equals more confidence equals better performances equals better results. At the end of the day, the board have two responsibilities - managerial appointments and investment, and they need to sort the former out first, as he's not going to get the players playing above 50% their best, making any investment in new personnel completely pointless. i agree and thats exactly what i was thinking while watching the highlights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Just got back from the match. The DJ sounded out a very importing message to the players by playing Heartless by Kanye West. They were fkin heartless, talentless and just pathetic. I really feel what is the point of spending money to go to the match to watch that garbage and have my money paid virtually straight into their bank accounts (the players) . I feel like a total Mug tbh. That's it pretty much. Too many players merely marking time until the move on. The rest are either too young, or are merely here for the cash and f**k all else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I still haven't found my bloody glasses btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we fucked it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we fucked it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. He was 1 on 1 with the keeper at one point, how does he not score given the quality he possesses? A ball is sailing to him, falling to his head perfectly, all he has to do is get it on target, again given his quality how does he not score? It has nothing to do with his confidence in his team mates. Like I already said, those were easy chances and confidence doesnt eradicate quality, he should have scored tonight, he had 2 good chances to do it and took neither. The team fucking up at the weekend is irrelevant to Owen's confidence as a goal scorer, he scored and that does well for his confidence in terms of scoring goals if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we f***ed it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. He was 1 on 1 with the keeper at one point, how does he not score given the quality he possesses? A ball is sailing to him, falling to his head perfectly, all he has to do is get it on target, again given his quality how does he not score? It has nothing to do with his confidence in his team mates. Like I already said, those were easy chances and confidence doesnt eradicate quality, he should have scored tonight, he had 2 good chances to do it and took neither. The team f***ing up at the weekend is irrelevant to Owen's confidence as a goal scorer, he scored and that does well for his confidence. "The Bunk don't swim!" Halfway through season two dude! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we fucked it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. confidence doesnt eradicate quality a lack of confidence diminishes a players quality, i cant see how there can even be any argument against that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we f***ed it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. He was 1 on 1 with the keeper at one point, how does he not score given the quality he possesses? A ball is sailing to him, falling to his head perfectly, all he has to do is get it on target, again given his quality how does he not score? It has nothing to do with his confidence in his team mates. Like I already said, those were easy chances and confidence doesnt eradicate quality, he should have scored tonight, he had 2 good chances to do it and took neither. The team f***ing up at the weekend is irrelevant to Owen's confidence as a goal scorer, he scored and that does well for his confidence in terms of scoring goals if anything. i've seen better forwrads than owen have games where they've missed a few sitters,but his goals record speaks for itself...if he normally misses that many he must be the best in the world at getting into the positions to get sitters in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 "The Bunk don't swim!" Halfway through season two dude! Man that life jacket, he was almost twice the size Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we fucked it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. confidence doesnt eradicate quality a lack of confidence diminishes a players quality, i cant see how there can even be any argument against that. Might diminish it, but it doesnt eradicate it, the chances tonight were simple, put on a plate for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 "The Bunk don't swim!" Halfway through season two dude! Man that life jacket, he was almost twice the size Mos def! I literally finished episode 5 of season two about 10 minutes ago, just thought i'd check in here before bed. What series are you on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry James but confidence doesnt eradicate quality and Owen had 2 chances tonight that lets face it, should have been goals. Also in terms of scoring goals, im not taking Owen's confidence as an excuse for him missing chances tonight on the back of him scoring at the weekend. Then why do the likes of KK, Capello, Wenger and Ferguson always bleat on about confidence? Aye, Owen scored at the weekend. What happenned? we fucked it up. Not going to do his confidence good one iota. And its not just about confidence in ones own ability, it is about confidence in the team, and if Owen doesn't have confidence in his team mates, he is not going to have the full mentality to consistently put the ball in the back of the net. He was 1 on 1 with the keeper at one point, how does he not score given the quality he possesses? A ball is sailing to him, falling to his head perfectly, all he has to do is get it on target, again given his quality how does he not score? It has nothing to do with his confidence in his team mates. Like I already said, those were easy chances and confidence doesnt eradicate quality, he should have scored tonight, he had 2 good chances to do it and took neither. The team fucking up at the weekend is irrelevant to Owen's confidence as a goal scorer, he scored and that does well for his confidence in terms of scoring goals if anything. Pretty much any player of any quality can have a crisis in confidence and suffer a loss in form, and everywhere I look, on the pitch and off the pitch I see lack of confidence. Contrast that to a year ago when there was happiness, cameraderie, swagger and results. Same players less confidence. To deny that every player in the side is being afflicted by the lowest ebb of confidence I have seen at this football club is to deny that the sky is blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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