Ishmael Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I fail to see how bidding for a good player at a value we consider acceptable is a waste of time. Its a waste of time because we won't increase our offer for him, yeah okay have a go with a cheap offer and see if they go for it, but you need to be ready to offer more if you are serious about getting the player. No problem at all if we've bid the maximum we can afford, or as I already said what we consider an acceptable amount. Mbia not the only central midfielder in the world btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most A player's worth whatever his club is willing to sell him for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most A player's worth whatever his club is willing to sell him for. If nobody's willing to pay that amount then he's not worth that amount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most I can't believe people on this board pretend that they watch Rennes games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most I can't believe people on this board pretend that they watch Rennes games. That's a daft thing to say really, you have no idea what anyone watches :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Anybody watching french football on a regular basis has too much time on their hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 i can't believe people on this board think M'bia is worth 10 million, worth 6 at most I can't believe people on this board pretend that they watch Rennes games. That's a daft thing to say really, you have no idea what anyone watches :S I dont understand where they watch it though? In fact i have no idea where people watch fringe players prem players, they're only on TV occasionally and surely you;d ned more than 2-3 full matches to gauge how good a player is. Match of the Day style highlights dont give a full show of what aplayers about either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 French football is on TV regular enough, on Setanta I think. It's not the point though. Unless you are French, or follow a team in the French league, chances are you won't be watching it. The point is, some people come on here and pass off things they have read or heard as their own knowledge and pretend to have watched every player we are linked with... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 French football is on TV regular enough, on Setanta I think. It's not the point though. Unless you are French, or follow a team in the French league, chances are you won't be watching it. The point is, some people come on here and pass off things they have read or heard as their own knowledge and pretend to have watched every player we are linked with... Where do you get that though. I watch quite a bit of Ligue 1 myself and I'm sure many others do too. I guess maybe I am different from most on here since I am not from, and am not currently residing in a country with a major football league. But I mean surely some more people follow French football. The league is the most interesting its been in years. Lots of good talents and for once a very very competitive title race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Anybody watching french football on a regular basis has too much time on their hands. ermm... What if they are French? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Anybody watching french football on a regular basis has too much time on their hands. ermm... What if they are French? BONJOURRRRR, YA CHEESE EATIN' SURRENDER MONKEYS! http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town/GroundskeeperWilly1.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Anybody watching french football on a regular basis has too much time on their hands. ermm... What if they are French? BONJOURRRRR, YA CHEESE EATIN' SURRENDER MONKEYS! http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town/GroundskeeperWilly1.gif Seriously though, do you, or do you not have a folder full of ready made simpsons characters with relevant quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 No, I don't, but I never miss an opportunity to stick one in should the need arise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I will wack myself off with a brillo pad if we get anywhere near signing this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordienorway Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I will wack myself off with a brillo pad if we get anywhere near signing this guy You won't have to. Found this in the Telegraph: Joe Kinnear offered 'lucrative' Newcastle contract The Newcastle United manager, Joe Kinnear, has revealed that he is considering a "very lucrative" offer to remain in charge of the St James Park club beyond this season. By Rob Stewart Last Updated: 6:36PM GMT 16 Jan 2009 Pondering: Joe Kinnear has been offered contract to stay at Newcastle Photo: GETTY IMAGES The Newcastle United manager, Joe Kinnear, has revealed that he is considering a "very lucrative" offer to remain in charge of the St James Park club beyond this season. Kinnear, 62, was only brought in on a short-term basis following Kevin Keegan's sacking but now he is comtemplating staying at Newcastle on a long-term basis under club owner Mike Ashley. "I know what my own future is," said Kinnear last night. "I'm just mulling over things in my head at the moment. I have been offered a very lucrative contract. "Mike Ashley, (managing-director) Derek Llambias and I, we've sat down and talked about taking the club forward and about reinvesting in the club in the summer. "But I said to them that first and foremost, we have to work hard and establish ourselves as a Premier League side and get away from the relegation fight. I really don't need anymore distractions than that. " Kinnear, whose contract expires this summer, added: "What I suggested to the club was that we all sit down in the summer and look at each other and say what direction do we want to take the club in, refinancing it, letting players go and bringing in my own players. I'll also see what my wife and family have to say. "I've now got a really strong foothold in the club and things are turning back my way. But obviously a few bad results and people have a different opinion of you. That's the way sport is today. You put three or four victories together you're A-okay. But a few losses and people's opinions change." Kinnear said he was relishing the challenge day-to-day management despite the pressures of Premier League football. "The more I do, the more I realised how much I missed it," said the former Wimbledon manager. Every time I come in and do the training work with the players I start telling myself â it's fantastic that this is part of my life, I really enjoy this.' This is the good part of the game, working with the talented players." "I've now got a really strong foothold in the club and things are turning back my way. But obviously a few bad results and people have a different opinion of you. That's the way sport is today. You put three or four victories together you're A-okay. But a few losses and people's opinions change." Asked if keeper Shay Given and striker Michael Owen had futures at the club, Kinnear was optimistic. "I've sat down with both of them on numerous occasions and spoken to them about their futures," Kinnear said. "I've explained the direction that I want to take the club in. Shay is obviously tied up. But Michael said he wished to see the season out and then just look at his options. Unfortunately, instead of this being addressed early doors, I've come in later-on and it's disappointing that this wasn't sorted out prior to me joining the club. But I've come in at the back end with Michael and I think Michael is basically looking at all his options in the summer. He's not saying that he isn't going to sign for the club. What he is saying is that he's going to look at all his options." Kinnear's Newcastle side could soon be facing a Manchester City featuring Kaka should the club's audacious bid for the Brazilian be successful. "It's gone from mad to madness," Kinnear said. "Having said that, we'd all like a player like that in our team. But it has a snowball effect. This week I made a £5 million bid for a player that I thought was about right for the ability of the player and what he has achieved in his career. He's a young player of 23. I got a phone-call back saying they wanted £15 million for him. "They throw in Kaka and the likes of whoever City are buying as examples. They are saying this is benchmark, â If you can ask that for that, then we would like this much for our player' and I would say they are not in the same class and he would say â is he [Kaka] really worth £100 million?' so we're getting a little bit of that at the moment and I'm sure I'm not the only one." For now Kinnear is focusing on guiding the Tyneside club to mid-table safety. "This is the start of a very important time for us," he said. "Our next four games are against teams below us [in the Premier League table] Blackburn, Manchester City, Sunderland and West Brom so it's imperative that we get results out of these matches. We want to put as much distance as is possible between these teams and us." Thank you and goodbye Mbia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I will wack myself off with a brillo pad if we get anywhere near signing this guy We'll take that as a pre-meditated gesture of enthusiastic support then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Wanted 15m doesn't sound like the nobody will be moving sentiment expressed in Rennes' statement that was reported on this morning. If we offered 10m we'd probably get him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 'This week I made a £5 million bid for a player that I thought was about right for the ability of the player and what he has achieved in his career.' JK hahahahahahhahahahahahah You daft greasy gypsy throw back. You couldnt buy Guthrie for that now and you expect to get a top international for 5m because he hasnt won the world cup. Timewarp, tatatatatatatimewarp. Get out of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So we offered £5m for a player his club rate at £15m. The best bit is loads of people on this forum knew we'd not get close to him for £5m, so you have to wonder what Kinnear/Wise were thinking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 that is the going rate these days. you cant sell a shit player like Milner for £12m and then complain when someone you only rate as a £5m player is going for three times that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So we offered £5m for a player his club rate at £15m. The best bit is loads of people on this forum knew we'd not get close to him for £5m, so you have to wonder what Kinnear/Wise were thinking about. You never know. How many on this forum would have expected us to get £12m for Milner. I reckon most would have shipped him out for less than half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So we offered £5m for a player his club rate at £15m. The best bit is loads of people on this forum knew we'd not get close to him for £5m, so you have to wonder what Kinnear/Wise were thinking about. Make it look like they were trying all the while planning to sign Quashie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So we offered £5m for a player his club rate at £15m. The best bit is loads of people on this forum knew we'd not get close to him for £5m, so you have to wonder what Kinnear/Wise were thinking about. What they value him at and what we value him at are two different things, the high valuation will be because they're not in a position where they have to sell. From what I've seen of him I'd say he was worth £8 million max, Kompany is around the same age and went to City for not much more than we offered in the Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So we offered £5m for a player his club rate at £15m. The best bit is loads of people on this forum knew we'd not get close to him for £5m, so you have to wonder what Kinnear/Wise were thinking about. Most said he was about an £8m player, £3m away from what we offered and £7m away for what Rennes want... Maybe its Rennes with the delusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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